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So. Fun. Have I mentioned that I love our show? I have? Well, it's worth repeating. But I'll do so below the cut.



First -- thanks for coming by and reading. I know this Ramble is late and we've basically 48 hours until the next episode, but it would be a shame to not write something up about this episode. Plus, having recently received a PM letting me know that a former reader has chosen to go elsewhere to read reviews as it appears we no longer see things the same way, I want you to know how much I appreciate your time, and if you take time to share your thoughts, I thank you. :)

Okay, so in the past 24 hours, I've returned from Disneyworld (nothing like seeing magic through the eyes of a 5 year old), answered  about 200 work emails (my penance for taking a few days off work), watched Castle take on a zombie horde (Nathan Fillion can do no wrong), finished the last 2 episodes of Game of Thrones S1 (because the hubs gave me the puppy-dog eyes and I cave easily for a good story), and caught up with our boys. Not necessarily in that order.

With that, this ramble will be shorter than usual, but no less heartfelt as I really enjoyed this episode -- even though we seem to be playing a bit heavy on the guest stars' stories of late. I can't help but think that means we've been saving up an inundation of Winchester for the final 3 episodes. I like these guest stars, though. I like how we get to see our boys through their eyes -- or get to see the boys play off of different characters, giving them different motivations and circumstances to react to.

And I have liked that several of the recent guest stars have been strong women. Like the muchly adored (by me, and I'm sure many others) Sheriff Jodi Mills, Annie, while doomed, was tough and smart and unafraid. And Charlie? Charlie was fun and interesting and believable. And kinda reminded me of me, with her geek side. So, Powers That Be? Please to not be killing Charlie, either. *puts protective bubble around Charlie and Sheriff Mills*

Because, basically, this episode was all about finding what currently appears to be red clay. Getting to the bottom of the digs Roman is funding. Which could have been handled with a two minute aside, but was instead entertainingly rolled out with a bit of a caper and some fun interactions with a new character who could potentially be returned and I wouldn't mind seeing again.

Having the focus be on other aspects of the story instead of spotlighted on the brothers has given me a chance to breathe a bit and really appreciate the talent we get to watch every week. Jensen’s portrayal of Dean Winchester has always amazed and enchanted me. He takes a written character and breathes such life into him that no other hero has really quite matched up to him since 2005. He can break my heart and put it back together again, the cracks worn like battle scars, within the same episode. He’s flat-out perfection.

And Jared’s Sam has fluctuated from frustrating to heart-rubbing over the season, culminating in a soul-bruising portrayal of nearly-lost sanity just a few episodes ago and now…now he’s back to the little brother who questions and forgives and follows and hopes and he is wonderful in this role. He is Sam.

Lastly, I apologize up front for what will surely be an infusion of asides throughout this ramble -- this is what happens when you catch me on the flipside of an immersion into magic.

So! THEN we have Dead Frank and Ghost Bobby. Caught up? Cool. NOW we are in the cabin in the woods (also a decent Joss Wheden flick) which has become the boys' hide-out-away-from-home. They are researching the archeological digs that Dick Roman has been funding, trying to figure out what he's looking for. Dean takes a drink from The Flask and just then the lights flicker. The boys instantly go on alert, looking tense, putting their hands on their weapons and searching the room. Bobby flashes in and they both pull their weapons, but relax the moment they see it's Bobby.

Why they didn't just automatically think it was Bobby, I'm not sure. They'd already connected him to the flask and Dean had the flask out.... Maybe they're still getting used to the idea. *shrug*

Dean: How's this work? I lift the cap off and you just genie your way out?

Bobby: Wish it were that easy--

And Bobby blinks out. The boys look around, at each other, both like WTH? Then Bobby flashes in again and says he's still worn out from his zen ghost battle. The look on Dean's face felt familiar. Like he couldn't decide if he still missed Bobby and felt guilty about his own doubts -- he didn't really want to admit it, but he didn't want Bobby there...especially when he can pop in and out seemingly at random.

Anyway, there's a bit of a flashback montage as Bobby is telling the boys that he saw more than just those numbers -- and it's no surprise. In fact, I think we covered it in the ramble for 7.16 - Out With the Old. Basically, the Levi's are creating a world-wide slaughter house. They heal us of our diseases, make us fat and docile with turducken sandwiches (which are more wide-spread now than just Biggersons), then funnel us through the processing house, noshing away. The only thing the boys -- or Bobby -- don't know is what Dick is digging for.

Just then, Sam gets an email...from Frank. We see a flash of a girl with red hair and green eyes hacking into something and then back to the boys reading the email: Sam & Dean, if you're reading this, I'm dead...or worse.

He goes on to say that the email was sent to them because someone is trying to hack into his hard drive and unless it's them, they've got trouble. His hard drive is filled with compromising information, like their new alias, hide-outs, where they stored the Impala (prompting a worried squeak of, "Baby?" from Dean...awww...and I MISS THAT CAR!!!). He tells them that he planted a tracking device on the hard drive, so Sam does some hacker-fu of his own and GPSs the thing.

Dean: Great. It's in the middle of the Death Star.

Ha! Okay, another aside? I loved all of the Star Wars references in this geek-fest of an episode. When we were at Hollywood Studios, I heard the Star Wars theme before we'd actually reached the Star Tours ride and you would have thought someone had hit 1986 on the way-back machine. I was 12 years old again, grinning and telling my 5 year old daughter about Walkers and AT-ATs and how many languages C-3PO is fluent in and where Chewbacca was from and how Han Solo won the Millennium Falcon. Mo Chuisle drank it in like she does with every story I tell her, but I thought the hubs was going to combust from geek overload. *laugh*

I liked the different ways this episode was put together with the time-jumps and split screen. I love the our show does different things like this to keep it new and interesting. I mean, yes, the story adds to the 'keeping it interesting' aspect, but there are times when fun little elements -- like the fake 'SucroCorp' commercial -- just makes watching the show fun.

So, we skip to five hours prior and meet our heroine, Charlie. I have to say, I adore Felicia Day. She is just made of win. And I love how fresh Charlie was. She fit all stereotypes and none at the same time. A computer something-or-other working at Richard Roman Enterprises, Charlie shows up for her work day, dressed casual, with her cross-body shoulder bag and her iPod playing "Walking On Sunshine." She breezes past security, gets in the elevator, glances around to see if anyone's looking (it's a glass elevator) and breaks out dancing in what can only be described as Willard-esque (and if you get that reference, 10 points for Griffindor).

She sits down at her superhero-adorned desk and shares pics of her 'hook-up' at a reproductive seminar (I think) with her cube-mate co-worker while simultaneously sending company funds into an animal donation fund (I think...again). It all happened really fast, but the gist is, she hacks for the good of the underprivileged and she is having a good week...so far. Just then her boss (looking Totally Freaked Out) calls her into his office and Charlie's (slightly adorable) co-worker gives her a worried look saying, "I love you." Charlie responds with a wry, "I know," before she heads to the bosses office. HA! Nice little Star Wars shout-out there. *grins*

She heads unconcerned into the bosses office...only to come face-to-face with Dick Roman and his eyeroll-worthy double-entente's that really only mean something sinister to those of us who know he's a monster who eats humans and make him sound simply pompous to everyone not in on the joke. He hands her Frank's hard drive and wants her to hack it -- he's utterly unconcerned about her hacking into the company funds for donations to adopt-a-pet or whatever. Thinks that is adorable. He wants to know why she's so hard to copy.

Charlie tells him that she has a problem with authority, so to get away with being her, she makes herself indispensable. I like it. Unfortunately, so does Dick.

Dick: You're kinda completing me right now, Charlie.

Charlie & Me: Um, eww.

He tells Charlie she has three days to hack into Frank's hard drive or she's fired (and by fired, we all know he means eaten) and then leaves. She looks at her Totally Freaked Out Boss and asks, "Is this real life?" He's basically like, why are you still sitting here? Go!

Heading out to her cube, she runs into Cube Mate Guy and tells him that Dick Roman just gave her an assignment, which means that, "The Eye of Sauron is on me."

Cube Mate Guy: If you need anything, I'll be back in the Shire.

Hee. I would totally get along with these guys. It's...kinda scary.

Charlie sits at her desk, then looks at her figurine of Hermione Granger for a brief pep talk before starting to hack into the hard drive. Aaaaannnnddd....go!

Aside? In the Orlando airport, there's a Harry Potter store. And Mo Chuisle saw it.  Now, I've only let her see up to the 3rd movie and we're currently reading book three, but she's totally hooked. I just have to wait until she getsa little older before I introduce Dementors because...well...nightmares. But she and I saw that store at the same time and the hubs was basically like, "Ach, I've lost them." We headed inside and squeed over the clothes and candy but then...she saw the wands. And whose do you think we walked out of there with? Yep - Hermione's. And Mo Chuisle spent the whole first night at Disney casting spells around the hotel room.

Anyway, Charlie's busy hacking away when suddenly the computer greets her as Professor Falken and asks if she would "like to play a nice game of chess." LOVE IT! War Games. HA! She thinks she found her way in when she gets a "Nice try, Zero Charisma." *laugh* I was doing a lot of chuckling through this part.

Back with the boys, they're planning the Winchester equivalent of the Trench Run to get to the hard drive and Bobby wants to go into Dick's office, but the boys are like, um, yeah, no. Not a good idea. Sam's the one who vocalizes their worry that he'll go vengeful spirit on them, though by Dean's expression, he totally agrees. They make Bobby "ride the pine" and He. Is. Not. Happy.

Cube Mate Guy finds Charlie dozing at her desk the next morning, realizes that she's been there all night. He offers to get her coffee -- laced with crack. Ah, so that's how it's done, eh? He returns with her Wonder Woman mug and his Batman mug, both wondering where Totally Freaked Out Boss went...which we see. Down in the parking garage, Dick and a henchman confront him, basically tell him he's totally replaceable, clone him, and then eat him. Buh-bye boss man.

Charlie finally hacks the hard drive, sees a Dick Roman file, channels her inner Hermione and opens it.

Charlie: What the frak's a Leviathan?

First -- that's my go-to swear word when little ears are listening and second -- she finds out all she could possibly want to know about Levi's thanks to Frank's meticulous record keeping. Understandably freaked out, she heads home to...get stuff (I was unclear on that front), gets a call from her boss and blames her absence on a "lady thing" -- HA! As she's getting ready to go, she notices her Darth Vader bobble head bouncing, hurries for the door, but Dean suddenly stops her, saying he isn't going to hurt her. She grabs a replica sword (not sure what it's a replica of, but I'm guessing a Lord of the Rings thing) that she had on display and calls him a shapeshifter.

Sam basically materializes out of nowhere, saying they're not shapeshifters and she hits him with the sword, breaking it. Whoops. Dean -- apparently guessing she read Frank's file -- proves that they're not Levi's by pouring Borax over their hands, then makes her do the same. Okay, so everyone's human. They sit down and tell her who they are -- which she summarizes down into Monster Hunters...not really wanting to know what other monsters are out there. That is a bit much to swallow all at once.

She wants to know how they found her, so Sam shows her that Frank hacked her webcam with the same code that sent the email. I'm not really clear on how that showed them where she lived, but I didn't really focus on that point, chalking it up to Hacker Stuff That I Don't Understand And Just Go With For The Sake Of The Story (I need to pick a different title for that category). They tell her what the Levi's plan is and that they need to hack into Dick Roman's email to find out why he's looking for at these archeological digs.

And if I may go a bit surfacey for a moment? Dean's face after he says, "...and we're the meat".... UNF. I need a screen cap of that. Please? Someone?

Charlie laments that "everything was coming up me" before the Winchesters happened to her life, and she goes to her laptop (with its Arwen from Lord of the Rings wallpaper) and tries to hack into the email only to realize it's on a separate server. D'oh! That's about when the boys break it to her that she's never going back to her old life. Either she's toast, or she's on the run, because Dick Roman has his sights on her and that? Ain't good.

Charlie: These things are going to eat everyone I know. What kind of douchebag stands by for that?

Atta girl. So, the boys sit down with her to plot and scheme a break in to Roman's office while ghost!Bobby watches from the unseen shadows. A bit later, we see the boys in a van (reminiscent of The Van from White Collar) looking at Charlie's laptop with four squares of video feed -- which Sam can loop to give Charlie 15 minutes of security. Charlie, apparently, told Sam that if she can't hack into Roman's laptop in 15 minutes, she deserved to be eaten. Heh.

Dean's commenting how much he likes Charlie, and then his expression changes and he utters a low son of a bitch! He and Sam peer at the screen and see Bobby’s flask in Charlie’s bag.

Dean: The hell’s he thinkin’?

He gets on the phone with Charlie (who has a BluTooth in her ear) and hears her singing “Walking on Sunshine” really softly.

Charlie: I sing when I’m nervous! Don’t judge me!

Dean: Judgment-free zone.

He tells her about the flask, which she pulls out and takes a swig from, thanking him for his good idea. Ha. Dean says that it’s a family heirloom and a good luck charm…so don’t lose it. Oh, Bobby.

Charlie says she’s ready to go, but is having a hard time moving. Sam, bless him, grabs the phone from Dean.

Sam: Who is your favorite Harry Potter character?

Charlie (slightly surprised): Hermione.

Sam: Did Hermione run when Sirius Black was in trouble? Or when Voldemort attacked Hogwarts?

Aside (I warned you)? I’m currently reading HP7 for the 4th time. I recently discovered I could download them on my Kindle and it was too tempting!

Dean (giving Sam a look only an older sibling can get away with): Seriously?!

Charlie: Of course not!

Sam (totally ignoring Dean): What did she do?

Charlie: She kicked ass! She actually saved Harry in pretty much every book (totally true, that) and then she ends up with the wrong—

Sam: Stay on track. She kicked ass, right? So what are you gonna do?

Charlie (with a grin): I’m gonna kick it in the ass.

*LOVE* I loved the Kim Manners shout-out with that line.

Sam: Good girl.

Dean: You go, Dumbledork.

Hee.

So, the boys watch Charlie on the monitor, poised to shift to the camera feed loop when she gets out of the elevator on 4 (where she’s supposed to go) then gets back in to go to 11 (where Dick’s office is). Bobby’s riding the elevator with her (of course). She gets off by Dick’s office, only there’s a big ass guard blocking the way, sitting down to read the paper.

Dean takes the phone from Sam and tells her she’s going to have to flirt her way through. She’s like, he’s not my type. Dean tells her to play through it. Only the thing is…not her type? Means he’s not a girl.

Dean: Oh. Oh. Pretend he has boobs.

I love how smooth and seamless his transition was there. Not even a stumble.

She says that makes it worse and Dean scrambles, thinking, then asks her if she has any tattoos. Give him a sneak peak. All tat’s are sexy. As someone with three, I agree.

Charlie: Mine is Princess Leia in the slave bikini straddling a 20-sided die.

Dean and Sam exchange A Look. I really like this girl. *laugh*

Charlie: I was drunk! It was ComiCon.

Dean: We’ve all been there.

Ha! Love it. So, they go to the split screen so we can see Dean’s (OMG, seriously, shouldn’t be legal) profile and Charlie working through what Dean’s telling her. He says he’ll walk her through it and his words propel her forward. The way he says those words would propel me forward, I can tell you that much.

Dean: Start with a smile. Relax. You just got home and Scarlett Johansen is waiting for you.

I love Dean Winchester. The man is velvety-smooth.

Charlie exchanges small talk with the guard about going to the gym, Dean feeding her lines through the BluTooth earpiece.

Guard: I’m trying to get back down to my fighting weight.

Dean/Charlie: It shows. You look amazing.

Sam is barely suppressing a grin. Dean pulls the phone down and shoots him a glare, hissing, This never happened. HA!

Dean/Charlie: You do anything else with your free time? Like take a girl out for a drink? Stop laughing, Sammy.

Whoops! Although, love that he said ‘Sammy’…that made me grin.

Charlie (quickly recovering): You don’t know that bar? Stop Laughing, Sammy?

After a few more (hilarious) flubs, she plays with her hair and manages to get the guard to agree to a drink, then let her past to use the ladies room to powder her nose. As she moves down the hall, she whispers, “I feel dirty.”

Dean: You and me both, sister.

She heads into the office and the boys are left to just wait. Using gloves (good girl!) she does her thing, downloading the email on her jump drive, but then the security guard gets suspicious. Bobby tries to “Yoda this” thing (ha!) and locks the door, buying Charlie some time, but the guard gets in. Charlie pretends as though she’s coming out of Roman’s bathroom, plays off the mixed up direction and writes her phone number (or a phone number) on the guard’s hand before snagging the jump drive and heading out of the office to her cube.

Back in the van, Dean is anxious x 10 as he waits for Charlie to contact them.

Dean (tense sarcasm dripping from his words): This is awesome. Y’know what? New plan. Let’s just stay in the van and send the 90 pound girl in.

Sam (who is making Borax bombs – and really? it’s about time…I think someone on the ramble brought up Super Soakers about 10 episodes ago…why aren’t they loading guns of some kind with Borax?) says she’ll be okay…or they will go in and get as far as they can.

It makes me feel both proud and sad that they’re willing to wade into this Leviathan mess as far as they can, knowing they probably wouldn’t get out of it. The first time I saw the hubs tear up in a movie, it was BlackHawk Down. Two Marines willingly went into the warzone to protect the pilot of one of the downed choppers, fully aware they wouldn’t make it out alive, but also knowing they were the only chance their wounded comrade had. That’s the feeling I got with Dean’s we’ll get as far as we can statement.

Charlie gets to her computer and sends the files to the boys, Dean’s face showing his relief at hearing her voice. Charlie’s “monster boss” (she can tell he’s not himself by the way he’s not acting Totally Freaked Out) checks on her and instead of heeding Dean’s advice and getting out of there, she stays to “get this over with.”

They find out that Dick stopped digging because he (apparently) found what he was looking for – something was being shipped in a case to him from Iran. My mind immediately went to Sunday school. Iran = Mesopotamia, Fertile Crescent, Garden of Eden, something Biblical….

A courier was set to pick it up in 42 minutes. Dean says that he needs one more thing from Charlie and then she can go…next thing we know, she’s standing up but Dick Roman is right behind her desk. *gulp*

An airport, a private jet, a package being picked up by Levi’s and the boys standing at the trunk of a…Pinto? Sam says, “Now what?” And it looks like they’re too late because Dick Roman is opening a case in his office looking gleeful. Until his glee changes to horror and then to anger as he sees a Borax bomb triggered by a cell phone timer aaannnddd BOOM!

Two hours earlier, we see that what Dean actually asked of Charlie when he said he needed one more thing from her was more time. So Charlie sends a ‘package is delayed’ email to the Levi courier peeps and the boys pull an Ocean’s Eleven caper dressing up in airport duds, swapping out the real case with their case (however, I did have to wonder a bit at their case matching the Levi case…I mean, how in the world would they have known what the Levi case looked like? Ah, well. *hand wave*)

Case appearances aside, I loved them getting into “costumes” (as Frank called them once) and playing a role, working together seamlessly as they had in seasons before. These are our brothers. *grins* Love it.

When Sam says, “Now what?” Dean responds by seeing what they ‘won’ and opening the case. It…looks like a piece of red clay, but only because they don’t have time to explore further, worried about why Charlie hasn’t shown up.

Well, Charlie hasn’t shown up because Dick Roman is at her desk asking her to show him what she found on the hard drive and she’s doing her best to play off the big “nothing” that’s now on the hard drive after she wiped it clean. Dick is impressed that she was able to break the unbreakable and she comments that “nothing is safe if you poke it long enough.” Dick is pissed (but smoothly so) that she can’t be cloned and then he gets his call that the package has arrived.

Charlie high-tails it out of there, but Dick isn’t taken out by the Borax bomb and manages to lock down the building before she makes it to the front door. Bobby is in the lobby when Dick and Charlie’s Monster Boss show up. He ghost-cracks the front doors, weakening the glass, and then turns, throwing the Monster Boss out of the way as he makes his way toward Dick.

Unfortunately – and purely unintentionally – his toss of Monster Boss sends the Levi directly into Charlie, crashing her against the wall and breaking her arm. Bobby doesn’t notice, though. His focus is solely on Dick. The boys show back up at the office, front-rolling through the weakened glass (pretty cool stunt, that) and pause as they both see Dick.

Charlie yells to Dean that Monster Boss is one of them and Dean throws Borax on him. Sam picks up Charlie and they both pause again, staring with utter hatred at Dick – who is trying to pick himself up off the floor from Bobby’s hit.

Dick (to Charlie): You’re hanging with the wrong crowd, kiddo.

Bobby throws Dick again and Dick laughs, roaring a challenge to Bobby to show himself. Bobby holds him down and Dean and Sam get away with Charlie in the…Pinto.

Dean: Charlie? Talk to us. You okay?

Charlie: No. Why didn’t you kill him?

Sam: We can’t. Yet. But we will.

Charlie: The really evil ones always need a special sword.

She passes out then, but that got me thinking about whatever that red clay thingy was…could that be the “special sword” that could defeat Levi’s? Dick was really, really pissed when he found out the boys had it. Mad enough to um, well…eat the messenger.

And then I got to thinking – and I know this is TOTALLY implausible and won’t happen – but wouldn’t it be cool if the “special sword” (assuming that potentially throw-away line has any special meaning) was Michael’s Sword? Just…y’know. Sayin’.

Later, the boys are walking Charlie to a bus at Cook County Bus Terminal – her broken arm in a cast and sling. She tells them to thank her by never contacting her again. They smile grudgingly, telling her to keep her head down out there, and she scoffs saying this isn’t the first time she’s disappeared.

Charlie: You think Charlie Bradbury is my real name?

I admit it. I googled Charlie Bradbury. Didn’t come up with anything, though. She gives them the Vulcan sign and tells them, “Good luck saving the world,” and she’s gone.

Dean: She’s like the little sister I never wanted.

Hee.

Sam: We gotta talk.

Dean: You mean, like, before we get back to the car and the flask?

Sam: Exactly.

Sam brings up the fact that Bobby going after Dick Roman got Charlie hurt. Dean defends him a bit saying that Bobby didn’t mean to and if he’d gotten a free swing at Dick, he’d have taken it, too.

Sam: If he really goes vengeful, he won’t be Bobby anymore and we won’t be able to pull him back, and then what are we supposed to do?

Sam sounds all of five there, like a kid who just realized that the people who told him Santa wasn’t real weren’t lying to him. It’s a sad change from his hopeful, “Do you think this could work?” from last episode. And Dean’s reply is sad, soft, and resigned. He knows. He’s always known. That’s why he was so hurt and upset when he found out that Bobby dodged the Reaper. That’s why he said “what are the odds this will end well…” He knows that it’s probably going to come down to them “taking care” of Bobby…and he’s already done it once.

Can he do it again without it destroying him in the process? I don’t know if even he knows.

They decide to figure out what the red clay thingie is first, then figure out what to do about Bobby. Because, sure, Charlie was an accident, but Sam’s right…what if there’s a next time? And what if that next time it’s not an accident? And what if they have to vanquish their friend, mentor, father-figure...Bobby?

What will that do to them?

But then again…what if by figuring out the red clay, they figure out how to end the Leviathans and help Bobby finish his unfinished business…and what if that helps it end well?

I think that might be what Dean’s hoping for…against all odds.

Thanks for reading! The first of the final three of the season starts in just 48 hours – hope to see you after that!

Slainte!



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taylorariel
May. 3rd, 2012 04:06 am (UTC)
Glad you and your family had a good time in Disney World. Was there with my two oldest about 6 years ago and you are so right: you can really see the "magic" when you view it through your child's eyes. My youngest will be 3 at the end of the month. Perhaps we can get back there with all five kids by the end of the year :)

I found this episode very enjoyable. And the main reason was Charlie. On the site I go to regularly to discuss our favorite show quite a few (negative) posters hated her. So it was like a breath of fresh air to read you enjoyed her like I did. I loved when Dean said she was like the little sister he never wanted because I felt she fit in with them very well. I would not mind seeing her again but probably won't since she told them she would be happy not to see them again!

Hated Dick. Because for me he is not a terrifying monster (and never has been)instead all he is really is..well...a dick. When Crowley first appeared on the show he was more frightening and threatening than this jerk of a joke is. The YED was more frightening....the original MEG was more frightening. OK...the kitten in the locker in "Yellow Fever" was more frightening!!!!
I have to say it is the actor's portrayal that sucks because "edgar" (who I thought WAS the leader when the leviathan first showed up) actually was threatening. This guy is lame and boring and hollow. I find myself smirking when he is on the screen and that isn't what I would be doing if he was scary.

I found myself a tiny bit irritated with Bobby in the beginning of the episode (a first for me) but I was happy with his actions at the end. He saved the boys and Charlie. Ok he broke Charlie's arm but that was an accident and a small price to have to pay to save to save their lives.
So, whereas I did understand Sam's concern at the end, I was not pleased with the way he presented Bobby: as a threat to all of them. We are talking about BOBBY here. Dean accepted Bobby's actions for what they were and he appreciated them. And he also is looking at the big picture and right now "handling" Bobby is not at the forefront of what needs to be done. He can be a valuable asset (like he always has been). So I could have done without the writers' "reminder" through Sam of what Bobby could turn out to be.

I fully agree this season (the ENTIRE season) has been way too heavily focused on guest-stars. To the point that in several episodes Dean and Sam seem to be putting in cameos on their own show. Hope that changes if we get an 8th season.
But I liked Charlie and I even liked the woman guest-star from last week (her name escapes me). I just hope the remaining episodes give Dean and Sam much more meatier roles on their own show and allow Dean to be the one to face the "big bad" and take him down.

Enjoyed reading your thoughts. Thank You.
Best to you and yours,
MD
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
Hi you!! SO good to see you. :)

Y'know, I'm glad I don't go outside of the ramble to read comments because from what I hear from you guys, it would totally bring me down. I know there's something to be said about seeing alternate viewpoints and other ways of seeing things, but you guys provide me with that and don't make me feel awful for being excited about the show in the first place.

Yeah, I've never really been a fan of Dick. Okay...that sentence sounded a lot better in my head. But you know what I mean! :) I just think he's an asshole and can't wait to see him ended -- preferably by Dean and/or a combo of Dean and Bobby.

I've been okay with the guest stars -- I mean, with Cas and Bobby out of commission, it's the best way to give our main stars a little bit of a break -- and timing-wise, I bet these last few episodes were filmed right around the time Gen was having the baby, so it made sense to me. But I'm excited to see a lot of Winchesters in the final 3!! :)

Thank you so much for reading and taking time to share your thoughts. Love to hear from you!
yasminke
May. 3rd, 2012 04:13 am (UTC)
Loved this episode!!

My ideas (oh hush, you're stuck) -- Babylonian/Sumerian mythology (which if you read *that* story you'll see why I went squee) , so Marduk, Ereshkigal, Inanna, blahblah, in short Gilgamesh Epic. Clay tablet.

Also (see *that* story), epic sword!!

Bradbury -- as in Ray Bradury was my first thought.
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
Okay, have you finished posting *that* story?? Because I have been dying to read, but want to do so in one fell swoop. Should I just bite the bullet and dive in?? I've seen bits and pieces of scenes as you've posted and I'm already jealous of the way you write your OCs.

Epic sword is epic! :)

I thought Ray Bradbury, too, but the 'Charlie' part threw me off. There was a Charlie Bradberry, though....
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borgmama1of5
May. 3rd, 2012 04:15 am (UTC)
The sword Charlie pulls out is a replica of Frodo's :)

It's been a while since an episode gave me butterflies...this one did, I was so nervous about Charlie's survival chances!

On a personal note, my trip was wonderful except for the having to leave part...I'll be posting about it and putting up a few pix in a couple days.

Babies are amazing...and when they are your own grandkid, well, it's priceless!
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
Sting! Of course! I knew it was LotR, but I couldn't be sure and didn't want to be wrong. :)

Oh, I'm so happy you had a good trip!! It's great to have you back, but I know you're missing that grandbaby. My youngest sister is due in October and I'm already planning on when I can go back to hold my new niece or nephew. Love babies!! :)

See you after tonight's epi!
yohkobennington
May. 3rd, 2012 04:35 am (UTC)
I will come back tomorrow when Im not falling sleep. In the mean time...count Dean's neck freckles.

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Also... NINJA STYLE!
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thruterryseyes
May. 3rd, 2012 02:41 pm (UTC)
smishes you
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ramblin_rosie
May. 3rd, 2012 04:57 am (UTC)
I'm actually kind of glad this one was delayed--gave me a chance to digest and process. :) And rest, too... the last couple of months all caught up with me at once last week.
[Nerd hat ON]
Dunno how well you know LOTR, but the first thing i thought when Cube Mate said that "I'll be back in the Shire" line was, "That makes him Fatty Bolger!!" Which actually fits, since Fatty was one of the friends Frodo left behind, the only one who knew anything about what was going on, and he ended up having to deal with Ringwraiths and ruffians at home while Frodo et al. were off saving the world.
And since this comparison therefore puts Charlie in the role of Frodo, however temporarily, it's also highly appropriate that the sword she grabs is Sting, which is Frodo's sword!

As for Bobby, it will surprise me if this explanation is actually offered in canon, but I wonder whether his anger management problems don't stem partly from what happened at the end of 7.19. The reason is that that scene reminded me a LOT of a scene in the Season 2 premiere of Stargate Atlantis, in which Ford, one of the main characters is attacked by a Wraith that is killed while feeding on him. Wraith feed by injecting an enzyme into the human and then sucking away the human's life; in this case, the Wraith's death reversed the enzyme flow, and Ford was almost overdosed with the enzyme. While that saved his life, it also messed with his mind, making him an instant addict and causing him to go rogue. I'm sure ghost energy isn't the same as Wraith enzyme, but who's to say that some of Whitman's impulses aren't contagious?
[Nerd hat OFF]
I think part of Dean's reaction there at the end is falling back on the "This is what I *can* fix; I'll deal with what I can't fix when I have no other choice" pattern. And honestly, I can't say I blame him.
I agree, though, that it would be wonderful if it does turn out to be Michael's Sword that's the key! Dean needs some agency here! (Although I really hope it also involves bringing Gabe back... I know Richard said "no one told the writers" that Gabe's supposed to kill Leviathan, but I'm taking that with a grain of salt after AbSno.)

Overall, LOVED the ep. Hope we get Charlie back. And I dearly hope Robbie Thompson stays--I don't think he's given us a dud yet!
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
*loves your nerd hat*

I read LotR in high school, then in college, and once more when the movies came out...and you're TOTALLY right about Fatty. :) I just wasn't sure how BIG of a geek I wanted to reveal myself to be when writing the ramble, but since I'm among friends here -- *squee!*

I've never seen Stargate Anything (TV Show wise) so I'll trust you with that one. BUT! I like the idea about Bobby 'absorbing' the bad ghosts impulses a bit. That's intriguing.

Yeah, totally agree with you on Dean needing to focus on what he *can* fix while he figures out how to handle the rest.

Yay for Robbie Thompson! Come back in S8! :)

See you after tonight's epi.
suprnatrlkiwi
May. 3rd, 2012 06:42 am (UTC)
Thanks for another great ramble, gaelic.

I'm probably going to be in the minority, but I was bored rigid with this episode and the previous couple. I'm really starting to notice the lack of action involving the boys in favour of guest stars. A lot of the jokes and references to Harry Potter were lost on me because I've never read a Harry Potter book or seen an HP movie and have no desire to (but I do like the LOTR references and at least I "get" them!)

I'm really hoping the last few episodes focus on the boys kicking some Leviathan/insert-MOTW-here a$$ and leave the guest stars to supporting roles.

Do I sound grumpy?! I just miss my kick-a$$ boys!





ramblin_rosie
May. 3rd, 2012 07:40 am (UTC)
While I can understand that desire... 7.19 and 7.20 were shot around the time Gen was due, and Thomas was actually born during the time they were shooting this week's ep (7.21). The focus might well have been different had the writers not been trying to build in as much potential time off for Jared as possible.
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cathy1967
May. 3rd, 2012 08:29 am (UTC)
Great ramble yet again. How do you do it? :)

I totally adore Charlie and hope she pops up again at some point.

There were inconsistencies in this that were a little hard to overlook, but overall I liked the episode.

I'm still hoping they find a way to bring Bobby back in the flesh. This is not a worthy existence for him and I don't want him to be gone completely, so ... bring him back! Now! *hrmph*

I'm all into spoilers, so I kinda think I know where the piece of clay deal is going, but I'll keep my trap shut about here. :D

So looking forward to Saturday morning (since I obviously won't be able to watch Friday night, being where I am).
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 05:53 pm (UTC)
*grins* You flatter me. Thank you.

Yeah, I did a lot of hand-waving in this one, but that's okay. I'd just come back from Florida, so I was hot. ;)

Eep! Spoilers! I am just glad I didn't have to wait long between this one and the next one! I'll look forward to seeing you on Saturday after the show airs for you!

Take care!
juppschmitz
May. 3rd, 2012 08:47 am (UTC)
Hiya, glad you're back!

This episode? I really don't want to comment or analyze. Don't want to think thinky thoughts. I just want to SQUEE! CLAP HANDS! GRAB THE EPISODE AND DANCE AROUND THE ROOM WITH IT SINGING I'M WALKING ON SUNSHINE!!!

Yesss! Take that, Dick Roman! You're as good as dead! Boo-ya!

(Can you tell I liked the episode?)

But - as always - I liked your ramble too much to just leave it at that!

So, your little fella chose Hermione? Good on her! Role models like that and she's gonna be a badass chick when she grows up. No pink princesses for her, please!

Charlie blaming her absence on a "lady thing" had me cracking up. Works everytime if you want to deflect a guy.

Hacker Stuff That I Don't Understand And Just Go With For The Sake Of The Story

LOL, this is totally the right title, you should make it into an acronym!!

I love Dean Winchester. The man is velvety-smooth. Ha! FRIGGIN' velvety smooth!!

Your problem regarding the matching cases was discussed on another journal (pdragon76, and this time I'm not posting a link!). My answer to the problem was this:

Obviously Charlie hacked into the airport webcam in Timbuktu or whereever that case came from. (Okay, Iran makes more sense biblical-wise, but strange locations I always hear "Timbuktu".) Then the boys went into Capers'R'Us and bought the same kind of case, complete with perfectly stencilled out styrofoam to hold a bottle of Borax and a quickly thrown together timed explosive device :)

Your idea on Michael's sword sounds way intriguing - but I always felt show just used it as a metaphor to refer to Michael's vessel rather than an actual object.

But, yeah, Mesopotamia, gotta be something biblical, right? I mean, that's where the Leviathan lore comes from. Unlike your run-of-the-mill-monster like shapeshifters, vampires and the likes... (Even though, why would Dick have sites all over the place - I mean, he would know about the geographical origins of the bible, right?)

Anyway, thanks for your ramble, glad you had a good time in Disneyworld!

Peace Out Bitches!
ramblin_rosie
May. 3rd, 2012 04:23 pm (UTC)
why would Dick have sites all over the place - I mean, he would know about the geographical origins of the bible, right?

Would he, though, if the last time he was topside was when Pangaea still existed? Unless he bothered to get the info from Cas, he probably had some serious puzzling to do to figure out where things are now compared to where they used to be.
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sockie1000
May. 3rd, 2012 01:45 pm (UTC)
Well, since you had one person drop out, now seems like an appropriate time to tell you I’m still reading. :) I’ve just been quiet because Bobby’s death really took it out of me. (Picture the boys on the couch in the cabin and you get the idea). But now that he’s back, I feel a bit better about the whole thing. And if watching every season in real time is like this, I can’t imagine how you all feel after seven years. This show is quite the emotional wringer!

As always, love the ramble and I appreciate the time you put into it every week. I loved this episode as well and I also hope they have Charlie back. Glad you had a great vacation. :)
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
Aw, thank you so much! I love that you took a moment to tell me you're reading. *hugs you for that*

Yeah, Bobby's death was SUCH a blow. I mean, there are ways to make it work (obviously) but...*rubs heart*

It's funny to think back to where my life was and what I was like in 2005 when I started watching this show. There have been so many ups and downs and I've never missed an episode...and you're right -- it's been an emotional rollercoaster! I can't say that there's another piece of media/entertainment that has changed me so thoroughly as SPN.

*sniff*

Thank you for taking time to comment. Means a lot to me. Hope you enjoy reading the last 3 of this season!

Slainte!
pandi19
May. 3rd, 2012 02:01 pm (UTC)
Hiya! Glad you're back!

Let me start off my comment by saying thank you for taking the time to write up all of your thoughts and observations after your vacation. I always appreciate it and love to see what you thought of the episode. I think you're stuck with me as a reader (hope that's okay...). :)

Not that I didn't appreciate that the boys found out Bobby was a ghost last episode (because I loved last week), but I'm glad we came back to the numbers.

I loved Charlie. It was nice to have a character that found out about the other side of normal and believed it. So good thing she hacked the file and not someone else.

Maybe before this episode I didn't fully understand how spirits go vengeful. It was hard to see Bobby warring with himself between getting Dick and saving/helping Charlie, then hurting Charlie to ghost-slam Roman in the lobby.

With only three episodes left to go in the season, I'm admittedly a bit worried on how this is going to go down. However, I can't wait to see what happens either, so basically I'll watch through my fingers while my hands cover my face!

Thanks so much for rambling! (Sorry my comments aren't as long this time...I'm at work!) I'll see you after Friday's episode!
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
Hi Name Buddy!

I'm TOTALLY okay with being "stuck" with you. :) *links arms and heads down the road*

I'm with you on being anxious + excited to see what's in store for us!! Eeep! Tonight!! Ack! :)

See you after that!
thruterryseyes
May. 3rd, 2012 02:39 pm (UTC)
Waves bye bye to disgruntled reader. How boring would life be if no one ever had a different POV to initiate interesting discussion about subjects of mutual passion? Their loss.

I agree about the guest stars but the parts that the boys were in made up for any lacks otherwise. Re: glass door shattering scene which Bobby replayed twice as it ran and then in slo mo frame by frame for my enjoyment.

“Charlie” was in Eureka the last two seasons and didn’t make it in the last episode and I wondered if they were settying upo a character for her in a some new show since she has an interesting and mysterious background.

“So! THEN we have Dead Frank and Ghost Bobby. Caught up? Cool.” Laughs loudly. Succinct and to the point.

I love that Dean always refers to the car as Baby now. And that Death Star comment made me think of you and had me on the floor. When I think of Star Wars I think it was a fun movie, you speak of Star Wars with the same wistful emotional attachment that other people hold for their kids first pair of baby shoes. (Vows to create “I am a true geek” art for you)

I really enjoyed Charlie and Dick’s meeting for the first time. I felt like she wanted to take a shower afterwards to wash the smarm off. And small aside, her statement about herself, that attitude saved my ass in a lot of situations.

I couldn’t figure out WHO that bobble head statue thing was! Ta!

I really liked that even tho this ep was deadly serious it was still presented in a fast paced fun way making you laugh and clench up all at the same time.

The entire scene from when Charlie has to get into Dick’s office and charm the security guard was fabulous, from Sam’s knowledge of Harry potter to Dean’s talking her thru a seduction.

Glad you guys had fun at Disney! Look forward to seeing pics!
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 08:43 pm (UTC)
When I think of Star Wars I think it was a fun movie, you speak of Star Wars with the same wistful emotional attachment that other people hold for their kids first pair of baby shoes. (Vows to create “I am a true geek” art for you)

*guffaws!* This is so true!! And I'd proudly display such art. :)

The entire scene from when Charlie has to get into Dick’s office and charm the security guard was fabulous, from Sam’s knowledge of Harry potter to Dean’s talking her thru a seduction.

YES! Loved that. :)

Talk to you soon!!
chemm80
May. 3rd, 2012 05:50 pm (UTC)
And I have liked that several of the recent guest stars have been strong women. Like the muchly adored (by me, and I'm sure many others) Sheriff Jodi Mills, Annie, while doomed, was tough and smart and unafraid. And Charlie? Charlie was fun and interesting and believable.

Ditto.

(however, I did have to wonder a bit at their case matching the Levi case…I mean, how in the world would they have known what the Levi case looked like? Ah, well. *hand wave*)

You're not the only one. I think pdragon76 said it best:

Why did it even matter that it matched? Why the fuck would the MINION even know what the hell it was going to look like? They could have substituted it with a BANANA and he just would have been like: "Oh, this is the thing for Dick Roman? Weird. Whatever." *takes it*

Made no sense whatever.

where they stored the Impala (prompting a worried squeak of, "Baby?" from Dean...awww...and I MISS THAT CAR!!!).

The reference made me hopeful that we'll get her back soon. At least they haven't totally forgotten her, unlike the they seem to have done with the amulet. Not that I'm still bitter about that or anything. *is totally still bitter about the amulet*

Charlie: These things are going to eat everyone I know. What kind of douchebag stands by for that?

Atta girl. So, the boys sit down with her to plot and scheme a break in to Roman's office


I loved Dean's reaction to her saying that. In fact, there was just something I really enjoyed about the way they dealt with Charley at that point, kind of patiently waiting for her to catch up and get with the program. I don't know.

It's certainly a testament to how much I liked Charley that I didn't spend all of her (considerable) on-screen time thinking, "Yeah, yeah, but where are ma boys?"

Charlie: I sing when I’m nervous! Don’t judge me!

Dean: Judgment-free zone.


Was I the only one flashing back to Phantom Traveler and Dean humming Metallica on the plane?

She’s like, he’s not my type. Dean tells her to play through it. Only the thing is…not her type? Means he’s not a girl.

Dean: Oh. Oh. Pretend he has boobs.


All I could think was, "Yeah, Dean...would that work for you?"

I love how smooth and seamless his transition was there. Not even a stumble.

The whole scene was so enjoyable for me.

something was being shipped in a case to him from Iran. My mind immediately went to Sunday school. Iran = Mesopotamia, Fertile Crescent, Garden of Eden, something Biblical….

Me, too. Immediately.

Sam picks up Charlie

Like she weighed no more than a kitten. I probably enjoyed that more than I should.

I liked this one a lot overall. Besides the fact that Charlie was fun and awesome, I thought they pretty seamlessly advanced both the Leviathan and Ghost Bobby story arcs.
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:00 pm (UTC)
Someone else pointed out pdragon's noticing the case, but I hadn't seen the banana comment! LOL! That's perfection, that is.

In fact, there was just something I really enjoyed about the way they dealt with Charley at that point, kind of patiently waiting for her to catch up and get with the program.

Agreed. :)

Was I the only one flashing back to Phantom Traveler and Dean humming Metallica on the plane?

Nope! Loved that. :)

Like she weighed no more than a kitten. I probably enjoyed that more than I should.

HA! And this is one of the many reasons I love you. :)

I can't wait to see what they have in store for us!!

'See' you later!
ladyarcherfan3
May. 3rd, 2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
Fantastic Ramble as always! I truly enjoy reading your recaps, you always manage to catch tibits I missed, and have such wonderful insights into the characters that I appreciate the show a little more everytime I read your Ramble. As a newbie to the show and the fandom, it's awesome to see someone who's been with the show from the beginning and is not jaded enough to quit after seven years.

I really enjoyed this episode, and Charlie made me smile - all the geekiness, the cheekiness, and then the fact that she didn't die, which was totally awesome. All the LOTR, HP and Star Wars references had me grinning like an idiot, because seriously there are days I talk like Charlie and her co-worker. (I recently moved away from home and friends for a new job, and I can't do the nerd references now because there's no one who gets it, so all the geekiness on the show made me happy and homesick at the same time, lol).

The flirtation scene was stellar - Dean's smooth talking, Charlie's stumbles and recoveries, Sam's reactions... priceless.

Bobby's got me worried, because I don't want to see the guy go vengeful (he was always such a rock solid presence, and it would just...ugh), and because I don't want to have to see the boys deal with that. I like the angst, but serious, that would be way too much.

I guess my biggest question/problem after the episode was why the boys thought they had to wait to kill Dick. Other than the fact that Charlie was injured and they had to get her out of there, what stopped them? Or did I miss something?

Looking forward to your thoughts on this week's episode when you get to it!

PS: Is this this cap of Dean you were looking for?
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And in icon form, in case you wanted it:
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Apologies if that's not the shot you wanted and for my less than stellar capping abilities.
-LAF

Edited at 2012-05-03 06:38 pm (UTC)
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
Hooooomygosh, yes that's definitely the screencap I was looking for. Just. I mean. LOOOOOOK at him. *sighs happily*

As a newbie to the show and the fandom, it's awesome to see someone who's been with the show from the beginning and is not jaded enough to quit after seven years.

YAY! This makes me happy. Thanks so much for telling me. :)


I guess my biggest question/problem after the episode was why the boys thought they had to wait to kill Dick. Other than the fact that Charlie was injured and they had to get her out of there, what stopped them? Or did I miss something?


I think that they don't yet know how to kill him. He's too strong for Borax -- since the bomb didn't even knock him out, just burned his face (gah!). And really, they don't know how to kill any of them...the Borax just incapacitates them and hurts like hell, but they still have to cut their heads off and put the head separate from the body to keep them down for the count.

So, the Monster Boss that Dean Boraxed wasn't really dead because he still had his head, and they haven't gotten Dick incapacitated enough yet to get close enough to cut his head off....

I'm *hoping* that the red clay is what will tell them how to take them out.

Guess we'll find out over the last three episodes! Eeep! :) See you then.
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primrose_1
May. 3rd, 2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
We're big fans of Felicia Day over at our house. I think my husband likes her in exactly the way I like Sam and Dean, which is maybe a little disturbing, but if it's fair for one, it's fair for the other right? He's still stuck watching season 6, but I showed him the bits from the episode that were all about Felicia, and he was laughing. They did a great job. I didn't personally like the time jumps, but it was a minor thing that is easily overlooked.

I'm so glad you had fun in Disney World- I can't wait to see you post your adventure!
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:08 pm (UTC)
Hey, everyone needs a guilty pleasure, right? :) The hubs and I actually have a List of Five -- five actors/celebs we're allowed to "lust" after (so to speak). It's just our fun way of saying, yeah, we get it. Everyone has their thing. :)

My top three pretty much stay the same. Four and five fluctuate with newbies now and then.

I was really happy with this episode and can't wait to see what they have in store for the final 3 episodes. EEP! See you then!
jesters_tear82
May. 3rd, 2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
Welcome home!! So nice to read tidbits of your trip laced through the ramble. Sounds like you had the most wonderful trip, MC must be floating on clouds still :) & I didn't comment on the last epi but I'm around, just over-worked & drowning in assignments! Ok nuff about me ;)

The episode felt very fresh, fun & quirky, the direction & editing was superb & Robbie Thompson (the writer) gets us!! He really does :) He'd better stay for season 8.

- Declaring Charlie one of my favorite guest stars! She has this infectious loveliness about her, when she danced in the elevator I joined her (I really did :) & I liked how Dick couldn't clone her because she's too special, unable to capture her spark & it drove him crazy!! I don't think he would have her killed/eaten, rather have her poked to death until he figured out what makes her tick.

- Also the fact she was so extra geeky *loves* made it easier for her to accept the weirdness of the situation & find her inner strengh just like her heroine H ;) All the LOTR, Harry Potter & Star Wars were sheer awesomeness & a great wink to us fans who are - let's admit it - mostly self proclaimed geeks who go to Comic-Con :) And Charlie's chemistry with both guys was spot on, LOL Sam talking nerdy to her & Dean giving flirting advice! I'm actually glad she's gay & can't be seduces by their manly charms (see Annie case), like Dean said, she's more of a sister/best friend to them.

- BOBBY BOBBY BOBBY.. he makes me sad, his inner conflict, trying so hard to stay & finish the fight along with his boys. I want him to kick ass with them one last time - getting his revenge on Dick - then move on peacefully, he deserves heaven (I'm imagining the last time we see him, he reunites with his wife & they disappear hand in hand, cheesy I know ;) I just don't want it to end tragically with the boys having to vanquish his spirit, this character deserves more than that.

- Your idea of the Michael sword actually sounds cool! Not sure they'll go this route but would love for Dean to take a big part in the Levi's defeat. I'm wondering what Cas' part will be, something biblical = angels might be getting involved. Interesting...

3 more weeks to go!! WHEN will we get the OK for season 8?
Breath, Adaya, Breath! ;)

Oh & totally not related but we FINALLY got Sons of Anarchy season 4 in Israel!! & they're showing it every day so in 2 weeks I'll be done! Had to let you know :)

See you - very - soon!






jesters_tear82
May. 4th, 2012 07:03 am (UTC)
Yay just read we got picked up for season 8!! OK now I'm relaxed :-) Can't wait to see where Jeremy Carver takes our show next year.

p.s. Forgot to say a huge THANK YOU for writing the ramble!
You rock, never forget that *hugs*
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impala1967
May. 3rd, 2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
wow gotta do this quick before work.
Woke up to great news ... S08 is a go. Such good news esp now that Sera is not running the show, although really I had no doubt when I heard of her stepping down. No point stepping down if there is no show.

And again great news after the wank that has been the SPN fandom these last few days. If you have missed it, don't go looking, I am ashamed of some of the SPN fans ... well I don't look at them as fans now.

But I loved this epiosde. Charlie was awesome and I really liked Dick as well. I don't know why, maybe he just really makes a good baddie. Creepy but awesome at the same time.

And of course the high light of seeing Dean chat up a guy via Charlie. It had to happen eventually what with all the slash on the fan sites. Its a wonder the writers didn't get it in there in earlier seasons.

It was a great light episode for me. Although it was a Levi episode it almost felt like a MotW story and maybe thats why I liked it so much. And your ramble has made me want to rewatch it tonight.

And I can't see Bobby going vengeful, cause I figure he will be back next season too. But Dean *flicks back of Deans head* why didn't you leave the flask in the car. Damn those writers for makling Dean not think.

Glad you guys had fun on your little holidays, hehehe nows it back to reality .... but Cas is here in another day *squees*

Sorry for any errors, am doing this super fast before work ...
(Anonymous)
May. 3rd, 2012 09:50 pm (UTC)
I'm one of the countless anonymous readers who read and love your reviews although I've never had the nerve to post a comment.(One reason is I'm so much older (65) than the normal fan and my 'elder' view is probably a bit out of date for your regular commenters) Anyway, I'm actually in the midst of reading all your past reviews,(and the comments). I'm towards the end of the 5th season right now. I discovered your reviews this year and find your take on each episode and the boys so attuned to how I feel about the show and the brothers relationship. But you see even more than I ever could on my own. And with such a hopeful feel to each review, you make them so much fun to read, even while recognizing the sadder aspects of the boy's lives.
Loved your review for this week's episode, my husband and I loved Charlie and I was happy to see your positive take on her appearance on the show, I really enjoy seeing these episdoes through someone else's eyes, even on the rare times I don't totally agree as they make me think and see the other side.Thanks for posting these reviews, I look forward to them after each episode.
Lynn S.
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pickamix
May. 3rd, 2012 11:10 pm (UTC)
So... just a little thing I noticed that was different from what I watched and what you reported.

Charlie didn't believe Frank about the Levis at first... she went looking for her boss in the parking garage and saw him get copied and eaten and THEN went running home to pack and run.

I'm glad you had fun on your vacation!!!!

This episode was tons of geeky good fun... I am in love with Charlie... I want to kidnap her and chain her up in my utility closet along with Willow and keep them forever.

It was the only Levi episode that has been tolerable to me.

I really hope we are done with the Levis soon. I'd rather have just MotW 'til the show got cancelled than more of this crap.

The only bad guy I'm into seeing as an over-arcing story is if they made God the bad guy... the show is practically set up for it. God is already an absentee father... it would only take a small nudge to make him the bad guy... and we know there's a way to kill God... Death... now... if getting to Death or Death not wanting to kill God because it isn't God's time were a problem... that would make things interesting. But we have evidence that the universe doesn't need God to continue going... He's been MIA for a while now.

Really... God as the bad guy is the only way to out do what they've already done. And that they could milk for a couple of finale seasons... and go out with a bang.

But it will never happen. Why? Because the people who run SPN are chicken.

And I know... you are probably all like... but God could NEVER be the bad guy... but let me make a small argument in just the SPN verse. So this is all fiction here. I will try not to bring up anything in the outside world... so no Great Flood or mass baby killings... just the SPN world.

In the SPN verse... God stood aside and let happen almost to completion a plan that would have ended humanity and while the plan didn't get finished... the death toll was innumerable. Think of some of the disasters that were the seals breaking.... think of some of the signs of the apocalypse.... how many people had to die while God, who could have stopped it all with a word, sat on the sidelines and did nothing? Even if you leave out all the deaths that were only mentioned which were in the tens of thousands... think of how many murders were on screen... weren't those people worth saving? Did they all have to die so horribly?

I get that it was actually all for our entertainment here in the real world... but when you pretend that theirs is the real world for a second.... that is a God I wouldn't want to know and one I don't think I could forgive. To stand by knowingly while horror takes place when you can stop it is just as bad as committing the crimes yourself. So I say that God in the SPN verse is already the bad guy... I'd like to see them go after him.

But with a viewing audience of how many people of faith... that'll never happen. But I can dream... and I can write my own story... if I can get a first draft completed.

Ignore me... I just hate the Levis and I hate seeing a show I like starting to putter out.

Were Levis the best they could come up with? Really?

I miss season 1.

*hugs and love*
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:23 pm (UTC)
Your thoughts -- in the realm of the SPN 'verse -- are not really that far off. Not with the way they painted God in S5 for sure. I'm not sure how they would 'defeat' such a bad guy, though, unless it became less about defeating and more about bringing about a change of heart (so to speak).

But with a viewing audience of how many people of faith... that'll never happen.

And that nails why they'd never go there. They'd alienate too many people and end their show right quick. Making angels bad guys was pushing a the envelope pretty good as it was.

But you're dead-on when you say you could write your own story. You obviously have the base all worked out. :)

I hope the Levis are done this season. We'll find out in 3 episodes! Eeep! See you after the next one.

PS
How's your ankle?

Also?

Charlie didn't believe Frank about the Levis at first... she went looking for her boss in the parking garage and saw him get copied and eaten and THEN went running home to pack and run.

I TOTALLY missed that. :) I mean, I saw her boss get copied and eaten, but I missed that Charlie saw it. So thank you! :)

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corbyinoz
May. 3rd, 2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
I don't often comment on your reviews - bad me! - but I do love them. And I agree with your take about 95% of the time, too. I love your enthusiasm and dedication, and you are doing a delightful job in adding to our enjoyment of these terrific episodes. So THANK YOU!

And I wondered about the case too. But I always handwave tech stuff, as I am a complete technotard, so if they said, "Hey! If we push esc-del-F10 we'll explode Mitt Romney's kidney", I'd believe it.
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
Hey there! Thanks so much for letting me know you read and enjoy! That means a lot to me and holy sexy eyes your avi is just...*fans self*

if they said, "Hey! If we push esc-del-F10 we'll explode Mitt Romney's kidney", I'd believe it.

*shifty eyes...whispers* Me too. *is tempted to try it...*

Hope you enjoy tonight's epi -- and ramble! Feel free to come back and comment anytime. :)
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iontas
May. 4th, 2012 03:14 am (UTC)
Great ramble! Sorry I am late to the party. I thought the episode was very good. There was some implausible things even for them, but I didn't mind so much. Lots of pretty Dean close ups always make me happy. So glad you had fun at DW.
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
Lots of pretty Dean close ups always make me happy.

Hee! Yep. We're easy to please. I mean, even if we notice it, we don't have to let it take away from our enjoyment, right?

Hope you enjoy tonight's epi -- see you after! :)

Take care. :)
(Anonymous)
May. 4th, 2012 03:36 am (UTC)
Hi,

It's late, so do you mind if I take a short cut and repeat myself slightly from something I said elsewhere?

I really enjoyed this episode. It had such a good, solid vibe. I think Walkin' On Sunshine" was a perfect song for Charlie. It's bright & fun & bouncy, just like her. And she was, as she stated, having a great week.... until she met the Winchesters.

I loved the Dragon Tattoo trilogy, and I loved all the little homages to it -- the yellow scooter (Lisbeth drove a motorcycle, but the scooter was perfect for Charlie), and Lisbeth was bisexual and Charlie was lesbian. It was just who she was. I really appreciated the matter-of-fact way she said the problem with the guard was that he wasn't a girl. It actually made Charlie so much more believable and authentic.

I also think that Sam & Dean couldn't help but be scared by what Bobby did, because they couldn't actually see him, or hear him. We, the audience, knew what he was thinking and doing because we were privy to that information. We saw him controlling his vengeful impulses, pushing the guy out of the way to try & protect Charlie. They didn't see any of that, only the final product, which looked pretty bad. Yes, they're basing their opinions on circumstantial evidence, but it's really the only option open to them.

I was a tad surprised that Sam had flipped again. This episode he was back to thinking Bobby was a problem. (Last week he was all for looking for a way to work with Bobby.) Although, I did kind of interpret that scene as Sam being really afraid and once again, looking to his big brother for guidance and to say "Everything's fine. Everything's going to be okay". Dean's done that for him most of their lives. He really needs that reassurance now, when it concerns Bobby. And I think Dean gave that reassurance by saying Let's deal with the clay tablet first, and then start worrying about what to do with Bobby. Meaning, let's give ourselves time to think calmly and not act rashly.

Finally, big hint from Charlie "The really evil ones always need a special sword to kill them". Mark my words, there will be writing on that tablet. Perhaps ancient Enochian. It will outline the ancient way to kill Leviathan, and it will probably involve a sword. Remember the dragon killing sword? But I also really love your suggestion of the Michael sword. I still believe that it was much more than coincidental that God/Levi/Cas mentioned something to Crowley about "do you really want Michael out of the cage?" I think somehow that line was significant as a clue or foreshadowing.

And I love that Dean is teasing Sam about Harry Potter, but he must have read or seen them too, because he calls him Dumble-dork! Ha! He gave himself away!

Thanks!

Pragmatic Dreamer
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
Like Dean said, this is a judgement-free zone. Copy/paste as you need to. :)

I loved the Dragon Tattoo trilogy, and I loved all the little homages to it

You know what's funny...I read all three books (the 2nd being my favorite) and that was the one thing I didn't connect to the homages, which was crazy, really, because you pointed out all the similarities. They were right there and I just *whoosh*....

I was a tad surprised that Sam had flipped again.

I wasn't really surprised. I mean, that's kinda Sam's M.O. He wants to hope, wants things to be okay and work out, but when it becomes evident they aren't going to, he reacts to what he's seeing/feeling and turns to Dean, looking for his brother to offer a solution. Doesn't mean he'll go with the solution Dean offers, but he needs Dean to be the one to make the call.

He does it instinctively, out of fear and a need for protection, and I don't blame him one bit.

Mark my words, there will be writing on that tablet. Perhaps ancient Enochian. It will outline the ancient way to kill Leviathan, and it will probably involve a sword.

Yep, totally with you there. And since Dean being Michael's Sword is more...metaphorical and symbolic than anything else, I would LOOOOOOVE it if Dean were the one to make it all work. :)

And I love that Dean is teasing Sam about Harry Potter, but he must have read or seen them too, because he calls him Dumble-dork! Ha! He gave himself away!

Hee -- yep! Though, he's mentioned HP before in random comments. I can't call out the exact episode, but he made a reference to Griffindor and Dumbledore before, as did Bobby. Maybe in the one with the dragon?? I can't remember now.

Thank you for taking time to read and share your thoughts with me! Hope you enjoy tonight's episode. :)

pandorajazz
May. 4th, 2012 06:41 am (UTC)
episode 20
It is so wonderful to find other fans that loved this episode too. Yes, I did wonder about the stories being focused on the guest stars the last two episodes, but I enjoyed watching them and they made me smile.

You had an interesting comment at the beginning of your ramble about a former reader. I know that I have said thanks before, but it is nice to be able to actually post a comment about the show here and know that no matter what I say, I won't get creamed for it. Also, on another note, I agree, it is wonderful to see Disneyland, SeaWorld or Universal World through a child's eye.

OK back to the episode. I loved the interaction between Dean and Sam. I'm very happy that we have Sam back. We have the brothers together again. You wrote a great description of Jensen and Jared's portrayal of Dean and Sam.

I guess Bobby can read really fast, because he seemed to know everything that Dick had planned. I wondered why Dean and Sam pulled their guns on Bobby, but love the fact they were reacting together.

I had fun with this episode because of the Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Wargames and Harry Potter references, plus all the different camera shots and time jumps. I was also proud of myself for realizing the "SucroCorp" commercial was part of the show before I hit the fast forward button on my remote.

I like Charlie and wouldn't mind seeing her again as long as she stays alive. (The same for Sheriff Mills) Also the fans who don't want the brothers in a romance at the moment might not hate Charlie. Now I could be wrong, but I noticed the name of the company president (?) Charlie was transferring funds from to her charity had the same name as the director of this episode.

Nice moment when Dean told Charlie "judgment-free zone" after he heard her singing as it reminds us of the Dean from the first season and his fear of flying.

Thanks for reminding me why I knew the line "I'm gonna kick it in the ass".

Dean said Sammy.....perfect! :)

Another favorite moment was Dean and Sam's comment about going in after Charlie if they had to and making it as far as they could.

I had to replay the scene where Dean and Sam come through the window a few times - even though I know it was the 2 J's stunt doubles.

I hope Dean and Sam are wrong. Bobby is Bobby, so maybe he can find a way to not go evil. Bobby did help 'his boys' on this case even if he did accidently hurt Charlie.

What a cool idea, Michael's sword. Whatever the clay holds, it is has Dick worried. :)

Looking forward to the next episode and season eight now that it has been confirmed.

Until next time,
Take care.



gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:39 pm (UTC)
Re: episode 20
Hi there! :)

I know that I have said thanks before, but it is nice to be able to actually post a comment about the show here and know that no matter what I say, I won't get creamed for it.

You will NEVER get creamed for it. I mean, I'd prefer if people were polite and nice when they disagree with me, but every opinion is valid here, so share away. :) I'm pretty up-front about my slant toward all things Dean and that I will find the positive, so if you're cool with that, come on by! :)

I guess Bobby can read really fast, because he seemed to know everything that Dick had planned.

*laugh* Okay, that's funny. And a really good point, too.

Nice moment when Dean told Charlie "judgment-free zone" after he heard her singing as it reminds us of the Dean from the first season and his fear of flying.

Agreed!

I can't wait to see what they do next! Final three epis...starting tonight! Eep! :)
amber1960
May. 4th, 2012 10:07 am (UTC)
Glad you managed to watch, digest and ramble all while enjoying your lovely Disney break!
I loved Charlie, and to be honest, I've not found this season too heavy on the guest stars because 90% of their additions have been well scripted and have (for me) added depth to the episodes they've featured in. I haven't felt a dearth of J2 screen-time...

At Rome, Jensen waxed lyrical about how much everyone loved thingy who played Charlie and how they all really wanted her back. So I'm hopeful!

Just Go With For The Sake Of The Story - there was a bit of that in this one, though it wasn't as bad as some! For instance, that van looked like some sort of FBI surveillance vehicle, and where the hell would they get something like that without Frank? but I have to admit I didn't look too closely, both boys were looking distractingly hot in there - kudos to the lighting guys for that because - wow! Gorgeous!

Btw - someone is going elsewhere to read reviews because you "don't see things the same way"? Seriously? I actually like to read a variety of reviews, because many times someone else has an insight I've missed...it's part of what is so great about people's recaps, that everyone has a different view. I keep a few on my to-read list who are totally negative about the show at the moment, because it is interesting to see why they think like they do.

Ah well. Their loss.


Edited at 2012-05-04 10:10 am (UTC)
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:43 pm (UTC)
I've not found this season too heavy on the guest stars because 90% of their additions have been well scripted and have (for me) added depth to the episodes they've featured in.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what I mean about having them be interesting and captivating -- and offering us the added benefit of seeing the boys through other's eyes. I enjoy that when writing and when watching.

For instance, that van looked like some sort of FBI surveillance vehicle, and where the hell would they get something like that without Frank?

I couldn't figure that out, either, unless they DID get it from Frank -- like took it from where he'd parked his RV?? I don't know. It did seem a bit too...'hooked up' for them to just to have found and/or put together. But...I went with it.

someone is going elsewhere to read reviews because you "don't see things the same way"?

Apparently. She (I assume it was a she) was basically like, "...you just don't get it and I can't keep reading when you and I obviously see things so differently..."

Okay -- this Ramble is here for the enjoyment of anyone who comes by. If you're not enjoying it, by all means, move on. I just was a little taken aback by the fact that she took time to send me a PM about it. *shrug* Ah, well. Takes all kinds, yeah? I still have you guys. :)

See you after tonight's epi!
pielover62
May. 4th, 2012 11:23 am (UTC)
I really liked this episode, too. I don't really have anything to add, but I wanted to thank you again for writing your ramble and let you know how much I enjoy reading it after I've watched. I always find something you picked up on that I missed. I think I missed half the shout outs in this one. I also enjoyed all of your little asides. Don't you wish sometimes that you could see the world through the eyes of a child?

And, we finally got the official word that there will be a season eight yesterday!Yay!
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:45 pm (UTC)
Thank YOU for reading! :) And taking a moment to let me know. :)

Don't you wish sometimes that you could see the world through the eyes of a child?

Yes! Especially when she will say something that blatantly shows me she's not yet been tarnished by the prejudices that feed into us as we get older. I wish I could have that kind of innocence once in awhile.

YAY for Season 8!!! *does happy dance*

Hope you enjoy tonight's epi -- see you after! :)
wrenny59
May. 4th, 2012 01:36 pm (UTC)
Hi Gaelic!

Just popping in to add my thanks for your efforts. I don't read a lot of reviews, but I always take time for yours because you get this show the way I do. I'm entertained every week. I get that people expect a lot from show, but even at its worst, it is better than the vast majority of those 'formula' shows. (I like Hawaii 50 (cough Alex O'laughlin cough), but talk about your hand waving... and there really isn't much variety in the stories or even in the way they are directed in the way that SPN always seems to give us a fresh perspective on things. But do I dump all over it? No. I take what I want from it and I'm happy!)
I guess I'm saying that I don't understand the hyper critical viewers who complain about the show. Why do they keep watching? It's a weekly TV show for frakin sake. Accept that it won't be up to perfectionist standards (whatever they are) every week and you'll be happier. It's still light years better than most everything else.
Ok, sorry for the mini-rant, it just drives me crazy not being able to see why the bug-up the butt viewers even bother watching and then to have someone actually say they are not going to read your reviews anymore? WTH. If I don't like something I read, I just stop reading and move along. I don't go out of my way to hurt someone's feelings by telling them!

So needless to say, I loved this episode. Charlie was so adorable and I too thought she was a great fit. Also loved that there were so many little references to SW, HP and LOTR in there. So much cleverness.
The red clay is very interesting. My first thought was that Dick wants to make a Golem, but not sure why he would need one when he's got an army of big mouths to do his bidding.
I also thought there was something meaningful about Dick saying more than once that he was so enchanted/intrigued by Charlie - that she couldn't be copied/cloned because of her spark or spirit or her 'specialness'. I think it's a key to his plans in some way.
I also like that bit about how they need a special sword. We know that Dean is a metaphor for the Michael sword, so I think this is also a big hint that Dean is a key to killing Dick (ok, I'm Dean obsessed like you! sue me).

gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
Hi you! Y'know, I don't read reviews much either -- part of it is due to time, but most of it is that I get input from your guys' comments and that feeds my thought process enough to satisfy me. And I really don't want to run into the negativity I'm told is out there.

So thank you for coming by and taking time to read! :)

Dude. Seriously? Alex O'Laughlin is my #2 TV crush right now. I can hand-wave that show all over the place just to watch him.

I guess I'm saying that I don't understand the hyper critical viewers who complain about the show. Why do they keep watching?

I read a quote somewhere that everyone needs drama -- it's what makes them feel alive. I think that part of the reason people keep watching when they so obviously are in the negative space about the show is that they've found a way to generate drama and want to keep doing it.

Annnddd...that's why I avoid pretty much everywhere else out side of the ramble. LOL!

. My first thought was that Dick wants to make a Golem, but not sure why he would need one when he's got an army of big mouths to do his bidding.

OOOHHH!! I hadn't thought of that. I mean, with the way he was talking about Charlie not being able to be copied...you might be onto something there, girl.

I did have to wonder if the boys could be copied. Wonder with all their special destiny and their having died and come back and saved the world if they might have that "special spark" too....

Nothing wrong with being Dean obsessed! LOL! And if there is, well, we don't want to be right. :)

Thanks for taking time to comment! I hope you enjoy tonight and hope to see you after.

Slainte!
looselyspeaking
May. 4th, 2012 07:25 pm (UTC)
Oooooh so tempting you are with those delicious pre-rambles that you know I love so much. I'm two behind, it's been manic here with sooooo much footie to consume my poor tv shows have had to sideline. Once I've got the FA Cup outta the way (tomorrow) I can enjoy on Sunday :)

Jane ;)
gaelicspirit
May. 4th, 2012 09:53 pm (UTC)
I *almost* got a Chelsea T when we were at a store in England (Epcot's version of England, that is, at Disneyworld). I saw it and thought of you.

Good luck at the FA Cup!! Our Sporting KC boys play tomorrow night. Been awhile since I've been to a game! :)

See you when you are able to watch and return.
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