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Stream of Consciousness, Epi 9.10

They're back! And even more complicated than before!




Okay, so clearly no musings or speculations came from Camp Gaelic over the hiatus. I spent our 'down time' concentrating on work, family, and, as some of you know, my latest fic. But I think that's a good thing because I liked going into this episode without really any per-conceived notions or hopes. I just watched for the story they presented to us and reacted to the way it unfolded. I think I like that, too. This may be a nine-year obsession, but...this way I don't get too crazy about it.

So, I'm really pretty sure that this is the first separation of the brothers that I was instantly okay with. I mean, all other times, it's been Sam leaving Dean or them being parted by no fault of their own (The Cage, Purgatory)...but this time, it's Dean walking away and I honestly think it's the first healthy thing he's done in a long time. His attitude wasn't healthy, but the fact that he walked away...I'm actually okay with it. Cas, knowing that Dean's concern was still and would always be with his brother, stayed with Sam to give him his periodic healing treatments or whatever until he's all better, so Dean knew Sam wasn't alone and would be okay. Therefore, while his reasons were tragic and hurt my heart to hear, his actual leaving made me take a relieved breath.

I'm prepared to duck the rotten fruit you throw my way; this is probably the most unpopular of the unpopular opinions, liking the boys being separated. But we all know it won't last more than a couple episodes. And, seriously, let Sam go after Dean this time. Let him...I don't know, realize that he needs his brother as much as his brother needs him, or find out Dean's in trouble and come to Dean's rescue for once.

Let Sam be Sam for awhile, healing up and thinking about all the happened to him because his brother loves him and didn't want him to die. Let him contemplate what he wants from life now, knowing he'd been ready to die. Let him think about how they've lived, co-dependent and inside each other's pockets. Let him think about how that's colored his brother's decisions and find a way to forgive Dean for the choice he took away. Let him work through being pissed to find compassion. Because Dean needs some compassion right now, ya'll. And let Sam find some peace within himself for the pain his 'vessel' caused outside of his control (once again).

As for Dean, let him be alone for a bit, no one judging him, no one needing him, no one demanding things of him. Let him figure out a little of life on his own terms, what hunting means to Dean Winchester -- not because Sam's life is on the line, or because he has to find Sam or save Sam or keep Sam safe or keep Sam happy so he doesn't leave or any of the other 40-odd reasons he's kept at this life that's been slowly killing him from the inside out. Sam, Sam, Sam. Dean needs a moment to remember who Dean is. And he needs to give himself space to forgive himself or, lacking that, accept himself so that he doesn't burn up before life is done with him. He needs to find his light again and be able to stand next to Sam instead of trying to always move in front of him. Figuratively speaking. And he needs to allow someone close again and not be afraid of being the cause of their death or downfall. That's going to take a little time.

So, yeah. I'm okay with them being separated for a little while. Because...let's face it. They'll be fighting side-by-side again soon enough. Like Chicago said, everybody needs a little time away from each other.

Okay, I'm going off of that little soapbox rant to my lists, assuming ya'll haven't tuned me out completely at this point.

Loved:

  • Bob Seger. Full stop. What a fitting ode to Kevin's hunter's funeral: "Famous Final Scene."

  • Dean's facial expressions. Every last one of them. Jensen did a phenomenal job with this epi -- especially the first few minutes. His eyes looked puffy, like he'd been crying and his face was tragedy personified. He was able to look both exhausted and shell-shocked at once, then later moved from pissed to scared to utterly lost with as much time as it takes to exhale.

  • Crowley. I know there are some of you who don't like him, but I really enjoy Mark Sheppard and Crowley's wry humor and quick way of connecting the dots in the plot was a welcome contrast to the other baddies. Including the angels. I mean, sure he's playing his own game of chess and trying to use the boys as his pawns once more, but he entertains me.

  • Dean barely keeping it together while Crowley tried to decode Gadreel and asking Cas to talk about himself so that he could keep the tears at bay. He just...*rubs heart* Sam's body might have been the one being hurt, but Dean was being tortured.

  • Dean stroking the Impala when they found her again. Sure, he was checking to see how warm the engine was, but he also petted her. You saw it, too.

  • "You were stupid for the right reasons." I love that Cas was a real friend to Dean and didn't try the 'tough love' approach that so many others in his life seem(ed) to think an effective method for getting him to act.

  • Poughkeepsie. That is all.

  • "Cast that punk-ass holy-roller out!"

  • The way Dean shakes just a little bit when he says he's going to burn for Kevin's death. And the way he flinches when Sam says he's not going to stop him from leaving.

Liked:

  • Cas' pimp-mobile. Complete with low-rider shocks and rap music. That must've been hell on Dean to drive. *laugh*

  • Having Crowley ask the same question I did: why did Cas need a car if he had his mojo back? And then finding out that stealing grace from another angel comes with a price after all: Cas' wings are broken. Interesting.

  • "The three amigos ride again." "He's not my amigo."

  • "You killed my friend and took my brother and you think I'm gonna let that stand?" "I allowed you to live." "Mistake." Atta boy.

  • Dean channeling John McClain with his, "Welcome to the party, pal."

  • Cas' anger when he finds out who is possessing Sam; the way he shifted from disbelief to full-on rage for everything that had happened because of this one angel.

  • Crowley calling Abbadon the "world's angriest ginger."

Meh:

  • The end of the prophets. That was pretty bloody convenient to have Metatron "flip a switch" so that the calling of another prophet with Kevin's death is no longer an issue. I mean, sure, it may make it difficult to translate the tablets, but Kevin had done a lot of work already. The whole premise that they're called up like Slayers being just done is a little...meh.

  • Jared as Gadreel. He was pretty awesome shifting from Sam to Zeke/Gadreel for the first half of the season, but we had Sam to compare to his Gadreel. Just all Gadreel all the time felt like he was back to robot mode. I actually felt my shoulders relax when we bopped into his head and it was Sam trying to figure out why ghouls were eating dead cheerleaders (which...let's have an epi with that MotW). No more Sam-as-anything other than regular Sam, please.

  • So...lemme get this straight. Cas worked at a mini-mart with gas pumps out front and still said with complete innocence that his Caddy "inexplicably" stopped? Seriously?

  • Helo-the-Vessel said 'yes' to Gadreel wicked fast. Almost like he'd been waiting for the angel to return.

Questions:

  • Assuming we care about the angel part of the story -- which, honestly, beyond Cas and me wanting Dean to get his confrontation with Gadreel, I'm not quite sure I do at the moment...though that could change -- what the heck is Metatron's game with putting hits out on all these random targets? Kevin, okay, I get because of the tablets. Thaddeas, sure, he's allowing Gadreel his revenge. But his friend Abner? Why send Gadreel after him? Unless he's trying to completely demoralize the angel. He's already as alone as anyone can get -- the scion of Heaven. The last time Metatron instigated seemingly random things it was all part of a spell to empty Heaven.

  • Anyone else wondering if the whole "jonesing for human blood" thing Crowley apparently had going on is going to come into play in the future?

  • Did they find a way to kill a Knight of Hell before? I have this weird memory that Kevin found something, but I'm not sure. Did I just make that up? Other than chop her up and bury her parts 100s of miles apart, I mean.

  • Raise your hand if you think the fact that others can identify Sam as the last person with the human vessels of the angels Gadreel killed is going to come back to bite him in the ass at some point? Yeah, me too.

THEN was basically Zeke can fix Sam, only just kidding it isn't Zeke it's Gadreel and Metatron solemnly swearing he's up to no good while Abbadon wants to rule the world and Cas getting his grace back but not before Kevin gets killed. So, you know, the first half of the season. NOW is probably one of the saddest funeral scenes since John died.

Dean, alone, standing in front of a burning funeral pyre, his face destroyed, his eyes tragic, while Bob Seger plays the Famous Last Scene. A bit later, the song still playing, he's back in the bunker and looking both exhausted and shell-shocked. He picks up Kevin's phone -- laying next to an unfinished sandwich and a notebook filled with symbols from the tablet. On his phone is a pic of him and his mom. That is the last straw; Dean rages, throwing the cell phone, clearing the table of the notebooks and crashing the lamp to the floor before picking up one of those heavy, wooden chairs and pulling a Bobby Knight.

He stops, out of breath, and looks around at the empty bunker, rage melting to fear and then dissolving into an utterly lost expression that made me want to reach through the screen and wrap my arms around him.

Next thing we see is backstage at some rockstar concert with some leather-clad, blond-haired, sunglasses male diva. Is there a word that means male diva? Anyway, his name is "Corey" and next to 'jerk' in the dictionary is a picture of him. He and his manager head to his dressing room discussing his set -- apparently he has an affinity for songs starting with the word 'baby' -- and when they get into the room they see Sam--or, well, Gadreel--sitting there and Corey sends his manager away with a, "Bitch, did I stutter?" Okay then!

Turns out Corey is actually an angel named Thaddeas and he recognized Gadreel -- which he should. Apparently he'd been a guard when Gad was in Heavenly Lock-up and had tortured him as well as killed a couple of Gad's friends. Thaddeas arrogantly thinks he still has the upper hand, but Gadreel had found his angel sword already and kills him. Which is probably not going to be a good thing for Sam...eventually.

Back at the bunker, Dean is packing pretty much every weapon he's ever owned into a duffel. Cas is there, wearing a suit and a new trench coat prompting Dean to say that Cas looks like he's back in the game. Dean had called him and Cas is clearly happy at first, but then notices the disarray of the bunker and asks what's wrong. So, Dean confesses. Listening, Cas looks sad and sympathetic. He's one of the few people who could understand making bad choices for the right reasons.

And Cas' stint as a human has changed him a bit. This is one of the few times I can remember him being fully focused on Dean -- helping him and being a friend to him. He's always been somewhat distracted if not all-the-way consumed by his own agenda, of which Dean had to play a part. He either acted like Dean owed him for saving him from Hell (which he did) or it was Dean's duty to do whatever it was Cas needed him to do because it had something to do with Heaven or the fate of the world, or Cas was trying to make amends...it was rarely if ever all about Dean...until now. It was refreshing.

Cas tells Dean he's sorry and Dean's like, "Sorry don't pay the bills. Sure as hell ain't gonna bring Kevin back." He turns away, his face pulled tight into a mask of pain and anger and says, "Gonna find this sonuvabitch."

Cas wants to know who the angel is and Dean just says it's a dead man walking. Cas reminds him that if he kills an angel, it's vessel dies, too.

Dean turns around and kinda props himself up on the backs of one of the chairs, his arms locked and looking like the only thing keeping him from collapsing. He knows that killing the angel kills the vessel, but if he can't get Sam and the angel burns out what's left of his brother, he's lost him anyway.

Dean (voice so full of self-loathing and regret it was painful): I was so damn stupid.

Cas: You were stupid for the right reasons.

Dean: Like that matters.

Something of this exchange reminded me of one of the earlier episodes when the boys encountered Abbadon in that abandoned town, back when we thought the angel possessing Sam was Zeke. Not!Zeke told Dean that he was a good man and made the right choice. And he'd also chosen 'Ezekiel' as his cover persona because Zeke was known as a good angel. I'm not sure where I'm going with this, exactly, except that I feel like there should be something significant about the fact that Dean has been told by two different angels that he's a good man when he's doubted himself...and Gadreel started this journey because he wanted to be a good man...before Metatron got his meat-hooks into him.

*ponders a bit*

Anyway, Castiel stands up and moves around to stand next to Dean telling him, "Sometimes, that's all that matters." He looks concerned by the fact that Dean appears ready to collapse if his arms were to give way.

Cas: Listen to me. If he knew an angel was possessing him, he could fight. He could cast the angel out.

But as far as Dean knows, Sam's in the dark. Cas reminds him of Alfie -- and about how Alfie said the demons had been able to access his 'coding'...they might be able to bypass the angel and talk directly to Sam. Enter Crowley.

Dean wants to trade a hit of human blood for a lesson in hacking an angel. But Crowley, see, he's a master negotiator. No way he's giving up that kind of intel for a little jolt of human blood. He says he wants Kevin to give him a massage and Cas tells him that Kevin is dead. Crowley pauses a moment then says he's sorry to hear that and for once, I actually believed him. He says that he'd warned Kevin -- told him to run away from Dean.

Crowley: How many times am I going to have to say this? People in your vicinity don't have much in the way of a life span.

Cas shoots a worried glance at Dean, as if concerned about how hearing something that would hit him. Dean has the mask on, though. Crowley eventually tells them that the hacking of an angel's brain is more of a show than tell sort of thing and will do it in exchange for a field trip, chains on. Dean says no, but then when Crowley points out that they don't have a Plan B, Dean stops. Cas is all, are you kidding me? Crowley says they should get Sam in for a tie breaker, and the look on Dean's face, the cracks that show up in his mask, tells Crowley everything he needs to know.

Crowley: The poor giant baby's in trouble again, isn't he?

So, Dean makes a deal -- the non-kissing, non-soul exchange kind -- and says they can go as soon as he gets a ride. Which means that *gasp!* Gadreel took the Impala! I don't know why that realization horrified me so much, but it did. Nobody puts Baby...in the hands of a rogue angel. Cas says that he has a vehicle but that it "inexplicably" stopped a few miles away. Annnnd we've already covered my arched eyebrow at that statement.

The three of them walk the few miles to Cas pimp-mobile, a jacket over Crowley's cuffs. A random woman is watching while petting her little terrier, Milly. Crowley wants to know why Cas even has a car.

Cas: When you betray us, I'll be the one to carve out your heart.

Crowley: Oh, Cas. Such a flirt.

Dean makes them both ride in the back, and they're like a couple of five year olds, I swear. Dean barks out a harsh hey! and they quiet down as they head off, shock-bouncing down the road.

Elsewhere, Metatron is in a bar where the bartender is none other than Gadreel's old vessel and while I was all Yay! Helo! I was also trying to remember where they were when Gadreel left Helo and jumped into Sam. All I know is, that bartender dude must have been one confused vessel. Gadreel comes in and Metatron wants a progress report. He's happy to see the tablets and Gadreel tells him that killing Thaddeas was easy, but killing Kevin was less easy. Metatron wants to know about Dean and Gad's like, "You didn't give me his name!"

Apparently, that loses him some points for ingenuity. Metatron's all we're writing our own story telling him that means he has to kill his darlings. He insinuates that Gad's done worse and Gad gives him a very pissed -- which, coincidentally was also a very Sam-like -- look. Metatron gives him a new name: Alexander Saveur (I think) and Gad wants to know how many lives he has to take.

Metatron: It's not your place to ask questions; your place is to obey.

That made me squirm on Gadreel's behalf and I don't even like the guy.

Metatron: Prove you're loyal, or go back to being Heaven's longest running joke.

Next we see that the woman who watched Cas, Crowley, and Dean leave in the pimp-mobile is actually a demon and has turned Milly's water bowl into a blood phone -- no prizes guessing what happened to poor Milly -- and is letting Abbadon know that Crowley is on the move. Meanwhile, Cas, Crowley, and Dean are in a place called Waldorff Financial, which Crowley says is a front for an NSA listening...post? Or something. Basically, spying. And he has a demon of his planted there. He says she can track anything, even poor little lost Samantha.

I didn't catch his gal's name, but when he goes back to her office she gives him the low-down about Cas having been human until he siphoned his mojo from another angel -- and apparently thinks 'feathered' Cas is HOTT. But, that's how we find out that Cas' wings are broken. And I kinda forget that demons and angels see each other's true form until this episode. I think that would be a cool episode if they had the FX budget for it -- give one of the boys (Dean, preferably) temporary angel or demon vision so they see what they really look like...and let us see through them.

Anyway, the NSA gal says that Abbadon isn't really in charge...most of demon kind is waiting to see who is going to take the belt in the prize fight. Plus also she's playing both sides - which Crowley respects, but later, when she tells Abbadon where Crowley et al are, the gal finds out that Abbadon doesn't so much appreciate the same things Crowley does. Poor dead spy girl.

But, before she's stabbed to death by a Knight of Hell, she tracks the Impala and tells Crowley that it's in Somerset, PA. Crowley goes back out to get Dean and Cas, saying, "The three amigos ride again!" I think he was letting the fact that he was out of that room go to his head a bit.

Meanwhile, Gadreel finds that Alexander guy and realizes that it's actually a friend of his from Heavenly Lock-up, named Abner. And Abs got himself a family now - introducing Gadreel to his little girl as his best friend. His wife and daughter leave for a movie and Gadreel comes inside to 'catch up' and they have this whole meaningful conversation about how The Fall gave them a 2nd chance and the key to happiness is finding the one thing you want and not letting it go, regardless of the prices and blah blah blah...Gadreel still kills him. That's pretty much when I wrote him off. Up to that point, he might have been redeemable to me because, like I said, he started out wanting to be a good guy.

But he killed his friend for no other reason than Metatron told him to prove his loyalty. He killed his friend for the possibility of being part of getting the angels back in Heaven...but what's it going to matter? How is that going to redeem him from his great sin of letting the serpant into the garden if he killed angels to make it happen? It's just like what Cas did with the Leviathan. It's almost like what Dean did allowing Gadreel in. I mean, someone, somewhere on this show needs to learn that the end doesn't always justify the means.

I'd rather it be one of our boys and not a bad guy, though.

Anyway, Cas, Crowley and Dean find the Impala and Cas and Dean leave Crowley in the pimp-mobile and go up to the house. Dean heads inside, finds the dead guy, and goes back to the kitchen where Gadreel is cleaning blood from his hands.

Gad: You shouldn't have come.

Dean: You killed my friend and took my brother and you think I'm just going to let that stand?

Gad: I allowed you to live.

Dean (pulling out an angel sword): Mistake.

Before he can attack, though, Gadreel uses his Angel Force and throws Dean back against a bookshelf, knocking him out. I need angels (and demons) to quit throwing Dean around so much. Let the guy fight, for Pete's sake! Gadreel starts to advance on Dean, but Cas is suddenly behind him and sucker-punches the hell out of him, knocking him cold. Heh.

Using whatever app they have that helps them find abandoned basements pr warehouses in any town anywhere in America, Cas and Dean take Crowley -- in heavier chains, now -- and Gadreel to a basement somewhere and have Gadreel all chained up - even his head is fixed in place. As Gad comes around, Dean walks by him all, "Welcome to the party, pal."

He should be in a dirty wife-beater, face all bloody, holding a pistol when he says that. I'm just saying.

Cas tells him that most of Sam's internal burns have healed and he should be able to fix the rest, but he's never seen the angel in Sam before. Dean demands Gadreel get out and Crowley says if he doesn't, they'll have a play date. Crowley is totally playing along with this, almost like it matters that Sam is saved -- which, thinking about how his mind works, it probably does because he probably needs one or both of the boys to inadvertently run an angle on his #VoteCrowley campaign and if it's Dean, he won't get anywhere if Sam's gone and he knows it.

Gadreel says he can rip Sam's body up even though he's chained and Dean ineffectively threatens to kill him if he does, which is really kind of stupid if you think about it because Gad's all, go ahead, stab your brother through the heart, which of course Dean can't/won't do. Gadreel takes momentary pity on him and tells him that Sam's trapped in a dream where he thinks they're on a hunt involving ghouls and cheerleaders.

Dean: Why are you doing this? We fought together. I trusted you. I thought you were one of the good guys.

Gadreel: I am doing what I have to do.

Dean: So am I.

So, Crowley starts to poke pins in Sam's head to block out Gadreel with like, medieval acupuncture techniques and there's a lot of yelling and after a bit Dean has to walk away because he can't handle watching a demon stick needles in his brother's brain. Which I was glad, because I didn't want to watch it either. Cas goes after him to check on him, clearly worried and Dean can't stand still, not quite pacing, but almost. His eyes are red from holding back emotion and he looks spent. He asks Cas if he's okay and pleads with the angel to just humor him to help him get his mind off of the noises he can hear Sam making, even though it isn't Sam feeling it.

Cas tells Dean that what he did to get his powers back wasn't easy, but he didn't have a choice. With a there's a lot of that going around tone, Dean apologizes for kicking Cas out of the bunker and not telling him about Sam. Cas understands -- Dean did it because he thought Sam's life was at risk.

Dean: I got played.

Cas: I thought I was saving Heaven. I got played, too.

Dean (weak smile): You saying we're both a couple of dumb-asses?

Cas (smiling back): I prefer the word 'trusting.' Less dumb, less ass.

Crowley calls them back because Gad's finally passed out and he can use the needles to get him to reveal his name. When Cas hears that it's Gadreel he goes a little berserk, spouting that he was the reason for the corruption of man, the reason God left, the reason for the Apocalypse. He grabs Sam's unconscious body and shakes it a bit, bellowing, "You ruined the universe, you damn son of a bitch!"

Not every day someone ruins the universe. That's pretty heavy...and I'm kinda thinking not something you come back from...especially by killing people.

Dean gets Cas to chill and Gad wakes up saying they are never going to get Sam - he's got all the time in the world to sit there. So, Dean desperately looks to Cas for Plan B...but Cas can't possess a vessel who isn't willing. However, Crowley can. He can takeover anyone he damn well wants to. Dean says no at first, but then realizes that this could be the only way to get the angel out and have any chance of saving Sam. He knows if he agrees to it, the leash comes off and Crowley's once more free...but he doesn't feel like he has a choice. He has to fix this...fix what he did to Sam.

So, he has Cas off burn Sam's tattoo and tells Crowley to say "Poughkeepsie" when he sees Sam -- it's their "drop everything and run" code word. He threatens with hollow words that Crowley better not mess with Sam and then...red smoke launches from Crowley's mouth into Sam's. Sam's pretty much Grande Central Station for a little while there. And Dean took another huge risk that Crowley wasn't going to just stay in Sam and use that as his play against Dean and the brothers Winchester.

While Dean and Cas are left to wait around, again, Sam's inside his dream looking through a book trying to figure out why the ghouls are only eating dead cheerleaders. Crowley shows up and Sam at first totally freaks out, calling for Dean, but then Crowley says 'Poughkeepsie' and Sam's all...how do you know that word?

Crowley tells him what's happening and says that he's seen everything the angel's seen and tells Sam to remember -- which he does and it bows him over a bit. He asks in a small, broken voice if he killed Kevin and Crowley shocks the hell out of me by sounding actually sincere as he says, "No. You didn't. He did." Then he bellows, "You need to take control and CAST THAT PUNK-ASS HOLY ROLLER OUT!"

Of course, that's when Gadreel -- wearing his Helo-suit -- shows up behind Crowley. Gad tells Crowley, "I'm going to be a hero. You, demon, will always be a coward."

Gadreel starts beating on Crowley and Sam jumps in, pulling Gadreel off Crowley, but gets tossed back, hard, for his efforts. Gadreel turns his focus on Sam and Crowley (from the ground) yells that Sam has to cast him out. Gadreel has Sam down and is choking him saying that he's the only thing holding him together and if he leaves, Sam might die. Sam overpowers him and steps on his neck -- ala Lucifer in AU!2014 -- saying, "I said, get the hell out!"

Atta boy, Sammy.

In the real world, white light streams from Sam's mouth and elsewhere at the bar where Metatron is swiftly turning into a martini-drinking barfly, the glasses start to break and the earth trembles and the white light shines in the windows and Bartender Helo whispers, "Yes," and bam, Gadreel's got his old vessel back.

Back in the basement, Crowley leaves Sam and returns to his body and Cas and Dean immediately go to Sam and pull out the pins and unchain him.

Crowley: I'm fine, thanks for asking.

Of course, because nothing is simple, right about then is when Abbadon and two of her demon goons show up. Crowley tells the boys and Cas to leave out the back door. Dean's like, you're not one of the good guys, and Crowley tells him that he's the goodest guy they've got.

Dean: This don't make us square. I see you again--

Crowley: I'm dead, I know. I love you, too.

So, they leave and Abbadon comes in, sees Crowley, and tells her demons to sic him, but they're like, yeah...um, about that.... Crowley is all blah, blah, blah, I'm back and tells Abbadon this isn't a fight, it's a campaign. Giving the demons incentive to stick with him, or go with the world's angriest ginger, he says, "Vote for Crowley," and blinks out of there.

Elsewhere that night, standing on what looks like either a bridge or a pier, the rain falling around them like a manifestation of their moods, the boys face each other. Cas heals Sam's outward injuries and says it'll take a few more stages to heal him all the way. He moves away a bit, giving them some privacy to talk.

Dean tells Sam to let him have it and Sam does, like we knew he would. He's pissed that Dean lied to him, that he tricked him into being possessed by a psychotic angel when he'd been ready to die. He can't hear that Dean couldn't let him die. He's too angry that Dean took the choice from him and forced this situation on him. And then, looking a shattered and sick, Sam mentions Kevin.

Dean (face tense, eyes holding a broken look): That's not on you. Kevin's blood's on my hands and that ain't never getting clean. I'll burn for that. I will.

Sam kinda nods, almost agreeing with him, and I can kinda forgive him for that because he's processing a helluva lot in this moment -- not only what happened to him and what Dean did to save him, but the fallout and the deaths and the fact that once again something else had control of his body and hurt someone he loved and he couldn't do anything about it. But seeing that nod had to break off a huge chunk of Dean's heart.

Dean: But I'll find Gadreel and I will end that sonuvabitch. And I'll do it alone.

Sam: What's that supposed to mean?

Dean (and, oh his face in this moment *rubs heart*): C'mon, man, can't you see? I'm poison. People get close to me, they get killed. Or worse. I tell myself that I help more people than I hurt and I'm doing it all for the right reasons and I believe that...but I can't -- I won't -- drag anyone through the muck with me. Not anymore.

This is where he needed someone to tell him that he was wrong, that he was worth it. This is where someone needed to tell him they wanted him to stay. But Sam was too banged up -- in his head and his heart -- from everything that had happened to be that person for Dean. And I don't think Dean would have accepted it from anyone else.

Sam was the only one who could keep him there and Sam tells him to go. Tells him he's not going to stop him. Dean flinched when he heard those words. Flinched and looked away, toward Cas and you could see that he didn't realize he'd been waiting for Sam to stop him.

Dean starts to walk away and Sam speaks up again, saying, "Don't go thinking that's a problem, 'cause it's not."

Dean: What's that supposed to mean?

Sam: Just go.

I'm with Dean...I have no idea what Sam meant by that. Was he tracking on that look Dean gave Cas? Thinking that having Cas around was going to be a problem for Sam? Was he thinking about the fact he wasn't fully healed? Something else entirely? I have no idea. But go, Dean did. He climbed into the Impala and drove away as Cas turned to stand near Sam, watching Dean drive away, knowing his friend needed to leave, but also knowing, I think, that he'd left Cas with his brother for a reason.

Cas gets Dean like Sam can't right now. There's a different insight there because Cas has been where Dean is on some level and has come back from it, has learned how to accept and forgive himself to an extent. He knows how much Dean loves Sam and how he'd do anything for him, but he also knows that Dean never thinks about himself and that is, in some ways, detrimental to both of them. Sam knows how much Dean loves him -- Not!Zeke said as much and he knew everything that Sam knew. But he's hurt and angry so it's going to take some time to wade through those feelings to find understanding.

I'm just glad Sam didn't walk away -- again -- all angry and filled with righteous indignation. They're still apart, but I think this makes sense. And it's going to take a lot more than just Sam saying, "C'mon, man, that's not true," for Dean to believe that he's not poison, that people who get close to him get hurt or killed just because of him.

I'm interested to see where they take us from here.

Thanks for reading, as always.

Slainte!

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strgazr04
Jan. 15th, 2014 08:39 am (UTC)
"And, seriously, let Sam go after Dean this time. Let him...I don't know, realize that he needs his brother as much as his brother needs him, or find out Dean's in trouble and come to Dean's rescue for once.
"

This alone made me feel tons better about an ending I really did not like. Somehow I didn't even think of this idea despite always wishing for it. I guess I just got so against them separating & rehashing the same fight that I didn't see the possibilities. And I think you're right about this being the first time Dean walked away. Now that I try to think back, I can't remember any other time except maybe when Sam was working with Ruby. I remember some scene where Dean asked Sam to make a choice, he chose wrong and Dean simply said "Goodbye Sam" then turned away, but I can't place the episode. Scarecrow maybe? When they fight in the middle of the road? Then again, Sam did tell him to leave. But that's all so long ago it almost doesn't count at this point ha!

Completely agree with all your 'likes'. Also loved pissed Cas too. I like that he said son of a bitch lol. As for his wings, I thought they were broken just like all the other angels that fell. And YES I thought the vessel said yes really quick too.

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gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:10 pm (UTC)
In Scarecrow, Sam left Dean -- and that's when he ended up at the bus station and met Meg for the first time. But I think you might be right -- I just can't think of when it was.

I didn't think about Cas' wings being broken like all the angels that fell (mainly because he wasn't an angel when he fell since his grace had been taken) but you are probably right there. It just hadn't occurred to me.

Can't wait to see what they have in store for us!
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jennygeee
Jan. 15th, 2014 08:46 am (UTC)
Thanks again for this Gaelic, I LOVED this episode!


Let Sam be Sam for awhile, healing up and thinking about all the happened to him” and let him think what he himself would have done in the same situation.



”So, I'm really pretty sure that this is the first separation of the brothers that I was instantly okay with” I’m so with you on this, my heart broke for him

I like Crowley too, while he doesn’t scare me like yellow eyes did, his is, as you say, entertaining. However I don’t like Abbadon. I loved the bit where Crowley asked for a massage and Dean says "I ain't rubbin' you" LOL

…. Metatron "flip a switch" so that the calling of another prophet with Kevin's death is no longer an issue” I must watch it again because I didn’t get that was what he meant. Edit: just watched that scene again and you are right, no more prophets.

Re the rock star killing, was I the only one thinking of how upset all the fans are going to be with the death of their idol :) Knowing our show though, I don’t think this will come back to trouble Sam, I expect the show to totally forget about this.

I was under the impression that only human blood could be used for communication, has animal blood been used before?

Abner telling Gadreel that “the key to happiness is finding the one thing you want and not letting it go, regardless of the prices” gave Gadreel’s the go ahead he needed for killing him, he wanted to be metatron’s right hand man so much that killing his best friend was worth it and Abner had all but told him so. Not that I’m making excuses for Gadreel at all but I don’t think that killing Abner was easy, I only think he did it because Abner told him you had to go for what you want regardless of the price.

When Sam said to Dean “Don’t think that’s the problem” (I heard ‘that’ not ‘a’) I think he meant for Dean not to think that Dean saying that everyone around him dies or worse was the problem - the reason Dean had to go.

I haven't re-read what I've written so it'll probably make no sense at all!!

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gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:14 pm (UTC)
was I the only one thinking of how upset all the fans are going to be with the death of their idol

Haha! I'm ashamed to admit that this thought didn't even occur to me. LOL!


I was under the impression that only human blood could be used for communication, has animal blood been used before?


That's a great question! I don't know!

Not that I’m making excuses for Gadreel at all but I don’t think that killing Abner was easy, I only think he did it because Abner told him you had to go for what you want regardless of the price.

Yeah, agreed. Abner kind of unwittingly sealed his own fate with that statement. But, to me, that just makes me despise Gadreel even more for the needy lacky he has become. I mean, I should feel sympathy for him, I suppose, because he's been in Heaven's Jail for millenia and, apparently, tortured by his fellow angels and started this whole journey wanting to be a good guy...but I think my sympathy card for those not Dean and Sam has been a bit overplayed. He's going to have to do something really big and get some of that red out of his ledger if I'm going to have sympathy for him.

I have no idea what Sam was talking about at the end there...hopefully they clear that up a bit because I'm interested.

See you soon -- and hope you feel better!!
grean
Jan. 15th, 2014 09:24 am (UTC)
Excellent review.
I think what Sam meant when Dean walked away "don't go thinking that's the problem, because its not."
Dean's speech about being poison. That is what Sam was referring.
I just want to repair Dean. He has gone from one firestorm into the next with no chance to collect himself or heal or come to some resolution. His entire life. From the moment his mother died on that ceiling his life has been one of duty. Conscripted into this war, whatever free will he had in those 4 years is all he has ever known.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:19 pm (UTC)
Dean's speech about being poison. That is what Sam was referring.

Hmmm - I wonder. I mean, it certainly sounds plausible, Dean saying that the problem is that he's poison and Sam saying, that ain't it. But the way Sam said it made it sound like it was so much bigger than that...y'know? I hope they clear it up a bit, because I'm interested.

Conscripted into this war, whatever free will he had in those 4 years is all he has ever known.

So. Very. True. *rubs heart* Oh, Dean. :(

Thank you for reading!
borgmama1of5
Jan. 15th, 2014 09:55 am (UTC)
As I was falling asleep Monday night, it suddenly occurred to me that Metatron removed Cas' grace by making a slit in his throat, and then Cas did that to Theo--so why couldn't they do that to Sam to remove Gadreel? Other than it would eliminate the need to subject Sam to physical torture for our viewing pleasure (slight sarcasm.)

I interpreted Sam's comment after Dean expresses that he's poison--'that's not the problem'--as Sam's attempt to try to get Dean to see that deflecting the problem to one of 'woe is me, I am cursed' is a copout for Dean accepting responsibility for making choices that rob others of their autonomy (think the memory wipe of Lisa and Ben as another example.) And maybe Sam intended a push back at Dean's wall of self loathing as well, because I'm pretty sure Sam knows all about how self-loathing just leads to more bad decisions...but after Sam made the comment, he was just too exhausted to prod Dean into meaningful self-examination and just mentally went 'I can't deal with this now' and let Dean walk.

I have a feeling that Cas is going to be the source that prompts them to get back together--he did it in season 8 when he brought Sam back along with the supplies for a mission Dean was tackling (drawing a blank on the episode right now, just remember Cas picked Sam up from a park bench and plopped him in Garth's houseboat with Dean and Kevin.)

He [Dean] needs to find his light again and be able to stand next to Sam instead of trying to always move in front of him.

This please. So very much, this...it's the only way I am going to really recover my passion for the show...

All in all, it was a tensely paced episode and Jensen's acting plus Sam kicking out Gadreel made it very watchable.

Sending hugs!
borgmama1of5
Jan. 15th, 2014 12:03 pm (UTC)
He stops, out of breath, and looks around at the empty bunker, rage melting to fear and then dissolving into an utterly lost expression...

I thought that Dean stared at the spot where Kevin died when we got a shot of the bunker wall/floor. Which...sob...
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cathy1967
Jan. 15th, 2014 10:11 am (UTC)
Loved your review. Loved the episode.

I wanna smack Sam upside the head for 'wanting to die', though. I don't know what it is. I get that he's fed up, that he feels all this blame that he can't shake, but stop with the suicidal tendencies already. I get he's pissed off right now because Dean did what he did, but he should also know his brother well enough to know that Dean can't exist without him in the world. So, get over it, Sweetheart, as Crowley might say.

Speaking of Crowley ... the more I see of the guy, the more I love him. I can't help it. I've always been attracted to the bad guys and this one's super-funny too. I hope he kicks Abba's (yes, I went there) butt and takes back Hell. For some reason I don't really think Hell under Crowley's command is going to be too bad. He lets damned souls wait in an endless line, after all. He doesn't seem into the whole torture-business when it comes to that. So there's hope for Dean, should his prediction pan out that he will burn for Kevin's death. I think Gadreel needs to burn for that, since he was the one that killed Kevin. It's another burden on Dean's already weighed-down shoulders that he shouldn't have to carry. I want him redeemed, dammit. As in now! *stomps foot* I want him to know, to really understand his own worth. The world would have burned without his interference. Humanity would have suffered, and yet all he can see is what he may have done wrong. *bangs head against desk*

I agree with your lists. And you know what? I actually didn't mind Cas's presences in this one. I think he's growing on me. *rolls eyes* Yeah, took me long enough. I know. But I'm fed up with the angels as a whole and I want Metatron thoroughly kicked out of Heaven. Would be a blast if he ended up in Hell under Crowley's thumb. *g*

Anyway ... good to see you back and I will be commenting on your latest fic shortly. I can't put it down, though, so you'll have to wait until I've plowed my way through the last few chapters. :D
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:37 pm (UTC)
I think Sam's comment was that he'd been ready to die...not really that he wanted to die now. He'd been through the trials and had been ready to sacrifice himself for the greater good and have it all be over and Dean stopped that.

I don't know that Sam is suicidal, more that he accepted a fate and Dean changed all of that.

But. I can't help but go back to how this all started -- with those damn trials. Sam taking over the trials because, he claimed, he wanted to survive them and Dean was too willing to die. He was going to show Dean the light at the end of the tunnel and all of that. He was going to show Dean that there was more to this life than sacrificing himself.

And then the trials wore him down until he was ready to die -- just as Dean would have been, just as he claimed he was going to stop Dean from doing by being the one to complete the trials. So, what Dean did was, in effect, akin to what Sam was trying to do all along and I need Sam to see that because this wasn't Dean simply exerting his will because, it was Dean trying to follow through with what Sam had said he wanted all along.

Newly re-angeled Cas has enough of his humanity in him to make him truly endearing -- especially as he's seeing Dean and sympathizing with the brother's current situation. I dig that.

Thank you for reading -- this and my story! :)

Talk soon!
taylorariel
Jan. 15th, 2014 11:36 am (UTC)
First, Thank You for returning to your rambles. I enjoy them and I know how busy your life is right now. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and (always) revealing things to me that I could not see.

I want to say that I really did like Crowley in this episode- and you know I am not a fan of the way the character has been written. He played a vital role in this episode and even though he did things to benefit himself, he was the help the Winchesters needed at this moment.

I find no threat to Crowley from Ababadon. I cannot spell that name!! One of the faults I have had with Crowley from the beginning is that he is supposed to be the King Of Hell but- for me- he has always been written as a vaudeville has-been. But I KNOW what he is supposed to be- dangerous, violent, evil- and even though he is poorly written, I understand how he is seen by the Winchesters. Abadon (still can't spell it!!) on the other hand is violent and mean- just like every other demon. I feel no threat from her and I will be glad when Crowley finally puts her down.

Once Gadreel killed Abner he was over for me. He is beyond redemption. And yet that is what I feel the character is so desperately seeking. He wants to be a "hero" and "save Heaven", I guess, to make up for allowing Eden to fall to Lucifer. And there lies the fault that kills the character for me. Everything is about HIM. Whatever he is doing it is to make him feel better and be seen as a good Angel by all the others. And he will kill anyone he has to- human or Angel- to gain that status. This is disappointing to me because I believed so much more depth could of been put into the character and he actually could have turned out to be good in the long run. But with lowly writers I was expecting way too much and Gadreel is just another shallow creation with no real value.

I, too, am SO grateful that Jared will no longer portray Gadreel. "Robotic" was the perfect way to describe his acting. For me there was no difference in how he acted here as when he acted soul-less. Stiff, undemonstrative and boring. Glad that is over with.

Cas was a good friend for Dean here. I, too, agree the issue with the car was stupid but the interaction between Cas and Dean was very good here. I am glad Cas has his grace back and is there for both boys.

Dean is wrecked. And that is good. He should be. And I am very glad he is off on his own now (even though it is only because Jared needed time off for his new baby). I know Dean is determined to hunt down Gadreel and kill him but I feel more anger toward the irritating no-threat Metatron then I do Gadreel. I don't understand why he hasn't been killed already.

I am SO tired of the Angel storyline and (except for Cas) I wish it would all go away. I can keep the demons because they are part of folklore but the Angels- especially as how they are written here- need to finally leave the show.

Sadly these writers are not good enough to give Dean the time he needs and deserves to have to gain back a good assessment of himself. Series TV wouldn't allow them to do that line justice anyway. That is why we need Excellent fanfiction writers like yourself to flesh out the characters for us and give them life. I would like to see Dean's character get the redemption he seems to be seeking; to throw off the heavy yoke of guilt he wears on his shoulders all the time. I am tired of him always being to blame and never be thanked for all he does- especially by his brother. And, after 9 years, I am getting tired of Dean's obsession about keeping Sam safe. This character has much more to him than that and I wish the show could get writers who can give the character- and the actor- a true story to tell rather than acting as both a shield and punching bag for Sam. I don't expect to ever see that here but I can hope.

It wasn't a Great episode but it was Very Good to have the show back again.

Thank You again.
My best to you and yours,
MD
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:40 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the biggest difference I saw between Gadreel-Sam and Soulless-Sam was that with Gadreel-Sam, I did feel a sense of conflicted emotions, an bit of an internal struggle. I think I'm just biased, though, because I like SAM Sam and the way he plays that role resonates the most with me.

I would like to see Dean's character get the redemption he seems to be seeking; to throw off the heavy yoke of guilt he wears on his shoulders all the time. I am tired of him always being to blame and never be thanked for all he does

Yeah, I agree -- BUT! Sam has thanked him. Remember back in the episode where we saw young Dean in the boys' home? Sam thanked him at the end of that one, realizing what Dean had given up to live the life he had, and that he'd done it for Sam. So, while Sam doesn't continuously thank him or anything, he has done it and has recognized it. It's more the Universe at large that's all giddy about kicking Dean to the ground and then stomping on him.

Thank you for your time reading and commenting. :)

spike247uk
Jan. 15th, 2014 11:49 am (UTC)
another wonderful recap, as always :)

I completely agree with you about Dean leaving this time.....although I hate the fact the boys have split up, again, I think Dean really needed to be the one to leave to maybe find out who he is outside 'Sam n Dean'.

I just really want Sam to be the one who reaches out to him, and not have Dean crawling back for forgiveness as I think this would defeat his leaving in the first place.

Looking forward to seeing where this goes :)

x
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:42 pm (UTC)
I just really want Sam to be the one who reaches out to him, and not have Dean crawling back for forgiveness as I think this would defeat his leaving in the first place.

Yes, me too. And not in a "hey, let's get the band back together" way like he did at the start of S5, but actually going and finding Dean and recognizing that they have things to work through but the important part is that they WILL work through them and Dean isn't poison.

We'll see where they take us! :)
yohkobennington
Jan. 15th, 2014 02:38 pm (UTC)
Idk if it's unpopular or not, but I'm also glad Dean walked away. I agree with all you said in paragraphs 2-5, so I'm not going to add anything more about that last scene.

Of course my problem with the show is continuity. What you said about Dean learning to walk next to Sam and not in front of him, well we were at that point in S5. But it seems the writers forgot all about and after that season if was like watching the first few seasons again. Which pisses me off because you cannot give me character growth and then take it the fuck away like it never happened.

And never mind the obvious lack of said continuity among the seasons these writers have been in charge of, even within the current season (your Cas comment about the gas, for example). I'm beginning to think they get hammered in the writers's room and just write whatever comes to mind in their slumber because I cannot understand how can they be this goddamn messy.

So, I watch this show on and off like a white noise in my background. I will care for the plot again when they actually learn to be consistent.



gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:45 pm (UTC)
Of course my problem with the show is continuity.

I don't disagree with you...but it does make me think about things a little. Like how in life, we can learn something, realize it's importance in our life, and then inadvertently let it go as other circumstances hit us and we revert to old habits. We have to learn something over and over, sometimes, for it to really stick.

And with the things they've taken the boys through since S5, I think Dean's having to relearn to really get it. Both of them are, actually.

That's my spin on it, anyway.

Having it on as background noise still gives you the glimpses of the pretty and gives the plot a chance to catch your eye so you can decide how much of your time it's worth. So I think that's a good plan. :)

Thanks for reading and commenting here -- I appreciate your time.
harrigan
Jan. 15th, 2014 03:07 pm (UTC)
Thanks for putting your overall assessment at the top of each review post! I never have time to go thru play-by-plays, so I'm glad I get a thoughtful analysis right up front.

And I agree with it all! I can't wait to see where they go from here!
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:46 pm (UTC)
So, out of curiosity, where do you usually stop reading -- do you get through the lists?

Thanks for reading what you're able to and taking time to comment!
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chemm80
Jan. 15th, 2014 03:52 pm (UTC)
I had some comments written and then my computer decided that was the perfect time to install a Windows update and shut everything down. It was mostly agreement with you, though, and I wanted to say thanks for the recap, because I missed some of this during the watch.

I've said more than once that I'm kind of over this show, but that I still love Sam and Dean and want to see what happens to them. Last night I was sitting there prepared to be underwhelmed, but that first shot of Sam in the previouslies and then having a sorrowful Dean on my screen... I was immediately charmed by our boys again.

The episode... let's just say that when I'm more interested in watching Crowley and Cas than in Sam and Dean, I do consider it a poor episode. And when Dean walked away at the end, I was outright disgusted. Having slept on it, I now think that was less because of what actually happened than about the fact that I felt like I was supposed to be torn up by the fact that they were separating. Again. And that made me feel manipulated. Cheaply.

If I look at it as just another story point, it works all right. Which leads me to:

Dean starts to walk away and Sam speaks up again, saying, "Don't go thinking that's a problem, 'cause it's not."

I think he said "Don't go thinking that's the problem, 'cause it's not." I'm not sure that makes a whole lot more sense. Or if he said "that's a problem" did he mean he's fine with Dean walking away? I have no idea, but it was one of the most intriguing lines in the ep, for my money.

And it's going to take a lot more than just Sam saying, "C'mon, man, that's not true," for Dean to believe that he's not poison, that people who get close to him get hurt or killed just because of him.

I think at that point Sam was too overwhelmed and tired to do that, even if he might have been thinking that. I could probably get behind them being adult enough to realize that spending time apart isn't the end of the world, literally or even figuratively.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:49 pm (UTC)
I still love Sam and Dean and want to see what happens to them

Yep...they reel us back in, over and over.

I now think that was less because of what actually happened than about the fact that I felt like I was supposed to be torn up by the fact that they were separating

I can totally understand this -- some things being played to purposely twist us up.

I'm not sure that makes a whole lot more sense.

Me neither -- I'm not sure WHAT Sam meant by that, but I sure hope they explore it at some point b/c I'm interested.

I can totally agree with those who say that what Dean did wasn't fair to Sam. He took his choice away and inadvertently subjected Sam to having to witness the atrocities that Gadreel committed using his body (as well as the good things...like saving Cas).

However, I can't help but go back to how this all started -- with those damn trials. Sam taking over the trials because, he claimed, he wanted to survive them and Dean was too willing to die. He was going to show Dean the light at the end of the tunnel and all of that. He was going to show Dean that there was more to this life than sacrificing himself.

And then the trials wore him down until he was ready to die -- just as Dean would have been, just as he claimed he was going to stop Dean from doing by being the one to complete the trials. AND, let's not forget, that Sam said 'yes'. Dean tricked him, but in the end, Sam said 'yes, I want to live' and that was how Gadreel got in.

So, what Dean did was, in effect, akin to what Sam was trying to do all along and I need Sam to see that because this wasn't Dean simply exerting his will because, it was Dean trying to follow through with what Sam had said he wanted all along.

I just hope they go through those emotions a bit as this continues to play out.....

Thanks for commenting! :)
thruterryseyes
Jan. 15th, 2014 04:18 pm (UTC)
Okay, you coerced me into reading this before i saw the ep (cause you knew I would anyway) Claws at monitor....MUST SEE
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 05:49 pm (UTC)
You've seen by now, right??????
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freya922
Jan. 15th, 2014 09:45 pm (UTC)
I felt so validated reading your comments as my thoughts and emotional reactions were running parallel to yours, from the moments that were kind of funny (Crowley!) to those that ripped out my guts.

There were a lot more of the gut-ripping moments than the funny ones.

You so aptly describe the terrible situation Dean finds himself in, and all that brought him to that place. I was so grateful to read your kudos to Jensen's acting because the complexity and subtlety of the feelings he had to portray... He was amazing. I could hardly bear it when Dean declared himself 'poison' and walked away. I, too, hope that Sam will pursue Dean this time, and forgive him...maybe even save him. I have faith in Sam to sort through his own confusion and come out to the right place, but meanwhile... ow.

By the way, as a music aficionado, do you have any idea why I can't find the Bob Seger "Famous Final Scene" song BY Bob Seger anywhere? I keep finding it done by someone else.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 15th, 2014 09:55 pm (UTC)
re: Bob Seger...I have that song on my "Stranger in Town" cassette, but I don't think there are a lot of mp3/mp4's of Seger songs out there. I did find this site, though:

http://mp3skull.com/mp3/bob_seger_famous_final_scene.html

I haven't tried to download, but maybe it might work? He's not available on Amazon (except on CD) or iTunes, though.

I love hearing that the ramble resonated so strongly for you! Dean just broke my heart and I left the episode feeling like I wanted Sam to find a way to save his brother. If nothing else...from himself. Once he processes what he's been through a bit, of course. ;)

Thanks for reading and commenting!
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ladyarcherfan3
Jan. 15th, 2014 11:20 pm (UTC)
Firstly - glad to see you back after the hiatus! (Also I have been reading your fic, but have been worse than usual about leaving comments and kind words. Forgive me.)

Onto the show and related thoughts:

So, I'm really pretty sure that this is the first separation of the brothers that I was instantly okay with. I mean, all other times, it's been Sam leaving Dean or them being parted by no fault of their own (The Cage, Purgatory)...but this time, it's Dean walking away and I honestly think it's the first healthy thing he's done in a long time.
I agree. I had a sort of knee jerk reaction of "No," when they split up, but after a few moments, it made the most sense. They have a lot of healing and thinking to do, and it is going to be best if they do it apart from each other. Sam's understandably hurting in a number of ways, and so is Dean, but if they are apart and perhaps focused on a healing and hunting on their own, they're going to b able to forgive (both to each other and themselves as well). At least I hope so, and hope that there will be growth for the characters.

Jensen's acting was phenomenal, as always. Was it at ChiCon or another con around that time that he said he was getting wore out because of where Dean's arc had gone? I can see where the last couple of episodes would have wrung him out.


I also thought Jared's acting was amazing as well. Gadreel did feel a little robotic, especially without the flip to Sam to cause contrast, but Jared is playing a completely separate character than he made me sympathize with. Because even after he killed Abner (who I was indeed sorry to see go, because I liked him), he's just desperate to do what he sees as the only way to get what he desires so desperately -
to redeem himself. And seriously, Team Free Will has done a lot of similar things for very similar reasons, so I have some sort of hope there might be redemption for him. So yeah, Jared's portrayal of that character did a lot for me. But yeah, Sam is back, and please let him stay as Sam!

Crowley - is he good? Is he bad? Not sure. But he is highly entertaining. I mean, he sat down in that chair to purposely turn around and confront Abbadon on his own terms. And Abbadon's return made me quite happy. I'm glad they hadn't forgotten about her!

Which means that *gasp!* Gadreel took the Impala! I don't know why that realization horrified me so much, but it did. I was horrified too, because I did have a moment of "where the hell did Baby go?" and it was my littlest sister who said, "Gadreel took it; it was the only thing big enough to fit Sam's body in." Duh.

In the end, I thought it was a good episode - everybody shone, there were some great lines to laugh at, moments that made me cry, story lines got resolved (Sam's angel free now), and new story lines got put into motion (where the brothers will go in terms of their mentality and relationship; Abbadon vs Crowley war for Hell, what Metatron and Gadreel plan to do now). So yeah. Very excited about the rest of the season.

See you next week!




gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 06:13 pm (UTC)
am's understandably hurting in a number of ways, and so is Dean, but if they are apart and perhaps focused on a healing and hunting on their own, they're going to b able to forgive (both to each other and themselves as well).

Exactly.

I mean, he sat down in that chair to purposely turn around and confront Abbadon on his own terms.

I loved that. I can't decide who I want to win the 'campaign' -- a baddie like Abbs who we can cheer when good ultimately defeats her, or an entertaining leader like Crowley who we sometimes like, sometimes hate and may be conflicted if/when he gets defeated.

Though...right now I'd definitely #VoteCrowley. :)

Thanks for your comments -- can't wait to see what's next!
cappy712
Jan. 16th, 2014 01:37 am (UTC)
That was a great review. Thank you.

I shouted for POUGHKEEPSIE so close to my home town.!!!!

Thank you again
gaelicspirit
Jan. 19th, 2014 06:14 pm (UTC)
I love when they get close to towns we live in. Living in Lawrence, I grin every time they reference that. Hee!

Thanks so much for reading and commenting!
keywester
Jan. 16th, 2014 03:07 am (UTC)
hey gaelic-it's meggin
Yes to your musing about about letting Sam go after Dean this time.

Agreed: Dean needs to find his light inside himself again.

Loved all your loves in this Ramble and I would have really liked to have seen Dean’s face the moment he put Cas’s pimpmobile in drive and it’s shocks bounced the whole car to the radio’s beat!

And I suspect as you do that Metatron is whipping up another spell and Gadreel is just his runner to gather the ingredients and do the sacrifices.

I too was wondering when the show might address Crowley’s blood addiction. ( interesting twist- a demon addicted to Sam’s blood instead of the other way around nec’pas?) Or if Crowley has been affected by the trials to an extent that he is a kinder more gentle demon? He’s certainly not as ruthless as he’s been in the past. But he’s just as conniving.

Oh and if the writers want to maintain any sense of realism in this story line Cory’s manager did see Sam (aka Gadreel) as the last person to be with the rock star before he was found dead in the dressing room. And since I felt the writers were inferring that Cory was a Justin Beiber level boy star then Helz yes there will be an all points bulletin out for Sam as a result! or every one will forget just like they did after the Leviathans used duplicates of the boys to go on a nation wide killing spree (LOL)

And about Thaddeus role as torturer/guard in heaven’s lock up...what’s up with that? We learned in seasons 7 and 8 that angels are just like programable machines, and Naomi was in charge of “correcting” faulty behavior by ‘reprogramming’ angels to tow the party line. So why have a jail? Why even need to torture? A simple “correction” to the brain ala Naomi and the misfit angel goes back to operating as planned. Angel jail? This. Did. Not. Compute.

Your pondering about Dean being told by two angels that he’s a good man follows a train of thought similar to mine. Once Dean and Sam were established on canon to be soul mates it was reiterated by Gadreel that the Winchesters devotion to each other was know heaven wide. So before the angel arc ends ( and I wouldn’t mind if season nine closed the books on it) I would like it to be acknowledged there was a God given reason Dean was chosen to be the righteous man, that Sam was the boy who kept being sacrificed and they they were destined to be instrumental as warriors to rid evil from earth AND heaven. Coz I know they are special why else would they keep coming back from the dead until “their work is done”?

You: Need an abandoned warehouse for nefarious deeds? There’s an app for that! (LOL)

You’ve probably been told the line Sam said to Dean was, “Don’t go thinking that that’s the problem... because it isn’t.” a dozen times by now. It’s still cryptic as hell. Did Sam reference Dean’s comment about being ‘poison’ and that is why he should go on this quest alone? Was Sam referring to Dean’s habit of making decisions for Sam? And that was why Dean needed to leave to give Sam some space while he healed? IDK but what Sam really meant by it is the big question.

I felt as you did that Dean at that moment needed to be told ‘No don’t go-we’ll figure this out.’ But when it comes to communication between those two it always seems to be one step forward and two steps back- hehe.

I just hope that while Dean is away and Cas is giving Sam his “spa” treatments that Cas gets Sam to talk about Dean. Lord knows they won’t talk about each other when they are right in the same room together! (LOL)
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:20 pm (UTC)
Re: hey gaelic-it's meggin
interesting twist- a demon addicted to Sam’s blood instead of the other way around

Ha! I didn't even think about it like that, but you're right!

So why have a jail? Why even need to torture? A simple “correction” to the brain ala Naomi and the misfit angel goes back to operating as planned.

I doubt the torture was done to correct but rather to punish. Just reprogramming Gadreel wouldn't make him pay for what he'd done to Eden, etc., so they put him in jail and tortured him for thousands of years. Yikes.

I would like it to be acknowledged there was a God given reason Dean was chosen to be the righteous man, that Sam was the boy who kept being sacrificed and they they were destined to be instrumental as warriors to rid evil from earth AND heaven.

ITA. I would be great closure to all they've suffered and survived.

Thank you for your time and your comments! :)
supernutjapan
Jan. 16th, 2014 03:23 am (UTC)
We are back to Purgatory Dean... the Dean that thinks everyone dies because of him. Isn't that interesting... And I'm pretty sure it was Crowley in Kevin's mom that told him that before as well. huh.

I do think the fact that it was Dean that walked away - and not Sam, was definitely better than the alternative. Sam sounded surprised to hear it though aye? It will be very interesting to see what Sam is thinking once he gets the words out.

Poor Gadreel... I was disappointed in Dean and especially Cas - especially considering how both of them are "stupid for the right reasons" and well, it seems to me that is exactly what Gadreel is as well - and so naive. And Cas should know the difference between the "official story" and the "real story." I'm still hoping someone will help Gadreel see the light (and I hope that someone is Dean).

The scene with the impala was my most favorite this time around, although I did enjoy Crowley. He kind of reminded me of Meg actually, the way he was acting good/bad. I loved what he says to Dean at the end and how he holds his own with Abbadon.

Anyway, lots of pain and heartache for Dean, and weak, tired Sam at the end there. Hoping that Dean will get into some serious trouble on his own - close to death kind of trouble - and Sam can save him this time.

There are screen caps and (just one) gif - of that impala scene... at my comm-blog as usual (http://supernuthome.livejournal.com/20770.html)


Edited at 2014-01-16 03:28 am (UTC)
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:24 pm (UTC)
LOVE that gif. :)

Y'know, I probably should feel more sympathy towards Gadreel because he's been played, etc., but I really can't. He lied to Dean, killed Kevin, and even if our guys have done something similar under different circumstances, he's not one of "ours" (at least right now) so, I don't feel sorry for him. I might, depending on how going after him plays out, but right now...not so much.

Hoping that Dean will get into some serious trouble on his own - close to death kind of trouble - and Sam can save him this time.

That would please me as well. :) We'll have to see!
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candygramme
Jan. 16th, 2014 05:45 am (UTC)
I have a basic problem with some of this. Dean blaming himself for allowing Gadreel into Sam is one thing, but in fact I don't see how that's actually true.

The rules are that the vessel must consent to being possessed, or no deal. Dean couldn't consent for Sam. Sam had to consent for himself, and Gadreel impersonated Dean to persuade Sam. Dean may think that he was to blame, but who is to say that Gadreel wouldn't have pulled the same stunt even if Dean hadn't acquiesced? Dean couldn't stop him. He wasn't/isn't capable of going inside of Sam's psyche the way Gadreel did. He has no idea what Gadreel did to persuade Sam to live.

I just think that Dean couldn't have prevented Gadreel. (I keep wanting to call him Gagreel!) from impersonating him. It just suited Gagreel not to have Dean trying to eject him from Sam, and of course Dean finally did make the attempt once he realized the need.

Anyway, right now it's yet another stick he's created to beat himself with. I wish he'd stop. Let ME beat him instead.

Crowley stole the show for me last night, but everyone was amazing, even Castiel, who was no longer being the angelic stooge, other than that bit about why his pimp mobile stopped. Once in a while, they knock it out of the park. Let's have some healing and then go get Metatron!
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:28 pm (UTC)
You make some excellent points about Gadreel's possession of Sam. I mean, yes, Dean agreed to "trick" Sam into saying yes, but the point is he did say yes. He may have been ready to die, but when push came to shove, he agreed to give it another shot, so while Dean's solution involved angelic possession he didn't, actually, take Sam's choice to live or die away. Sam chose to live.

And as well he should b/c this all started back with those trials -- the trials Sam insisted on taking because he said that Dean was willing to die and Sam was going to show him the light at the end of the tunnel and that there was more to life than sacrifice. And then he goes through the trials and is beat down by them and ends up in the same place Dean would have only...Dean's supposed to be okay with it? Yeah, I don't see that happening. If the roles had been reversed, would Sam have been okay with it?

Let's have some healing and then go get Metatron!

*raises fist in solidarity* HUZZAH! :)
kitap
Jan. 16th, 2014 09:06 am (UTC)
Dean walked away from Sam after Benny killed Martin.

Sam seems to be conveniently forgetting that Dean was ready to die in Faith and Sam refused to let him.

I like Sam but he needs to understand he's got flaws and has culpability in all of this too.

Crowley is- as usual- treating Dean warily. He seems yo be the only bad guy who gets how dangerous Dean really is.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:30 pm (UTC)
Sam seems to be conveniently forgetting that Dean was ready to die in Faith and Sam refused to let him.

Exactly. And, Dean may have agreed to "trick" Sam into saying yes, but the point is he did say yes. He may have been ready to die, but when push came to shove, he agreed to give it another shot, so while Dean's solution involved angelic possession he didn't, actually, take Sam's choice to live or die away. Sam chose to live.

He seems yo be the only bad guy who gets how dangerous Dean really is.

Agreed -- and maybe that's why I like him as a baddie (aside from his amusing dialog). He actually seems to respect Dean.

Thanks for your comments! :)
qultng1
Jan. 16th, 2014 02:43 pm (UTC)
It's good to have them back. There's been so much going on in my world/life that the hiatus didn't really seem that long to me this time. Guess that's both good and bad. lol

I am in total agreement about Sam needing to be the one who goes after Dean this time to make up. He did call Dean circa au2014, but he had left that time and Dean had agreed to it and then denied him during that phone call. I was okay with that denial, too. Mostly, what needs to come out of this is Sam getting over himself and understanding and recognizing his wonderful brother for the wonderful brother that he is. And I think that's what you said, so there you go! I give it a big YES PLEASE!!!

Crowley surprised me, too with his speach to Sam...and yes, he did seem to really mean it. I'm beginning to think he has a lot of respect for our boys and doesn't really want anything permanent to happen to either of them. What fun would that be then? But I love Crowley, anyway. :D

I'm even feeling a little more positive toward Cas and I've never been a fan. Hmmmm

Like you, I'm really interested to see where they're going with all of this. Oh! and what about Sam's tattoo? Is he fulnerable now or can Cas put it back or will Sam have to go get it again?

Anyway, it's good to be back on this roller coaster. :D

gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:32 pm (UTC)
He did call Dean circa au2014, but he had left that time and Dean had agreed to it and then denied him during that phone call.

True -- but this time, I kinda want more than just a "hey, let's get the band back together" phone call...I want him to physically go find his brother and have them fix whatever needs fixing. Also, I kinda want Sam to save Dean, but beggars can't be choosers.

I'm beginning to think he has a lot of respect for our boys and doesn't really want anything permanent to happen to either of them.

Right?? I see that, too. :)

Can't wait to see where this is all going. :)
primrose_1
Jan. 16th, 2014 08:51 pm (UTC)
I'm so grateful that they didn't keep Sam possessed for episodes and episodes. I was really afraid of that. They found him, and got him back, and whew. I liked the episode a lot, and I wish it ended well. I think it's a bad idea to split up, as they've proved time and time again. It's not that I MIND it, it's probably a good idea that they split up for a bit this time, but it never leads to good things!

I was annoyed at the "Prophet switch" idea myself. That went flat for me. But considering the sucky things that happens to prophets, maybe it's a good thing for humanity in the end. I also wondered about taking Cas' car....didn't they have a garage with all kinds of awesome vintage vehicles as part of the bunker? Am I remembering things wrong? Isn't that where Dorothy of Oz went to get her bike? Why would they need to walk forever to get Cas' car?

I can't wait to see what happens next! Here's to new episodes!

gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:35 pm (UTC)
I'm so grateful that they didn't keep Sam possessed for episodes and episodes.

Yeah, me too. Enough with possessed!Sam. We've seen so many different variations of Sam over the last few seasons I'm starting to forget SAM!Sam.

But considering the sucky things that happens to prophets, maybe it's a good thing for humanity in the end.

HAH! I never thought of it that way. You're probably right. :)

I also wondered about taking Cas' car....didn't they have a garage with all kinds of awesome vintage vehicles as part of the bunker?

I know!! I thought about that too late to add it to the Ramble, but you're right -- tons of vintage cars and motorcycles. It's where they put Baby, right?? That's just odd that they wouldn't have just gone there. But then...they couldn't have Crowley and Cas out in the open and Random Demon Woman spying them and calling Abbadon. *shrug*

Can't wait to see what's in store! :)
jazzyirish
Jan. 16th, 2014 11:03 pm (UTC)
Hi Gaelic, thanks for your awesome ramble. I thought this was one of the better episodes this season. Jensen was absolutely phenomenal in it; it's no wonder he said that these last two episodes took a real toll on him.

So agree about Seger. Seems many of his songs resonate with our boys' lives. This title was almost a tipping of the hat to Osric I think. Anyway, absolutely loved the opening NOW scene with Dean being totally wrecked about Kevin's death. I suspect Kevin's young age packed an even harder punch. If Dean finds out that it was Metatron's order, he better watch out as well as Gadreel.

The flipping of the switch to eliminate future prophets is just a lazy writer's way of not having to develop another prophet to take Kevin's place. Unfortunately, lazy writing pops up in every episode these days. What you mentioned about Cas and the pimp-mobile is another example: they needed demon lady to see Crowley out, so they had them walk to the car right past her.

I really liked Dean's interactions with Cas in this episode. They really seemed like true friends and brothers-in-arms.

One of the things I most admire about Dean is that he always takes responsibility for his actions. What's sad is how hard he is on himself for his decisions/actions when they hurt others. (I wish Sam took a page from Dean's book in this regard because he's too quick to blame everyone except himself) Dean tries so hard to help everyone, protect his brother and friends, and do the right thing. But nobody is perfect; I wish he'd realize that and forgive himself. That last scene between Sam and Dean just wrecked me and I think that Sam was implying by his comment that the problem is that Dean ends up sacrificing people in his attempt to protect Sam even when Sam doesn't want him to. Sam in his weakened and angry state just didn't want to deal with Dean.

Dean's out for revenge for Kevin's death so Gadreel had better watch out. Next week I think we'll be seeing BAMF Dean Winchester in action. Can't wait.

Thanks again for the ramble. Always love your enthusiasm about the show and that alone lifts my spirits as well. See you next week.

Irish
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:41 pm (UTC)
What you mentioned about Cas and the pimp-mobile is another example: they needed demon lady to see Crowley out, so they had them walk to the car right past her.

Yep -- which is why they didn't go to the fully stocked garage in the bunker. Shame.

I really liked Dean's interactions with Cas in this episode. They really seemed like true friends and brothers-in-arms.

Totally agree.

Dean tries so hard to help everyone, protect his brother and friends, and do the right thing. But nobody is perfect; I wish he'd realize that and forgive himself.

Yeah, that's really what needs to happen but I can't really see it playing out, unfortunately.

Next week I think we'll be seeing BAMF Dean Winchester in action.

I sure hope so! :)

Thanks for commenting and I'm glad that my enthusiasm for our show doesn't come across as too Pollyanna-ish. :) See you soon!

pandi19
Jan. 17th, 2014 05:52 am (UTC)
Hey there, Name Buddy!

This episode felt like cleaning your room when you're a kid, it gets dirtier before it gets clean. That being said, there were several moments I liked. And I'm not going throw rotten fruit at you, I agree with the separation as well. Let's get our heads on straight, get whumped a bit, & then get back to hunting things, saving people.

Loved:
- Dean :)
- "You were stupid for the right reasons" I've been there....
- "You're on my side." LOL.
- Dean cracking. FEELS.
- Poughkeepsie. :D
- Crowley not lying to Sam about Kevin.

Liked:
- Post-human Cas. Sure he's an angel again, but the empathy he showed Dean was huge. Huge. In my book.
- The dream case. Ghouls and cheerleaders? Hilarious.
- Vote for Crowley

"Gadreel, we are writing our own epic story here. To make that work, sometimes you have to kill your darlings."
We've had this conversation minus the rogue angels & in a less literal context.

He should be in a dirty wife-beater, face all bloody, holding a pistol when he says that. I'm just saying.
Right?!

Excellent Ramble! I always enjoy hearing your viewpoint. See you next week!

Mandi
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:42 pm (UTC)
Hi there! Thanks for your lists -- love seeing what you thought. And THANKS for getting the 'wife-beater' comment. You may be the only one who did! LOL!

See you after the next one!
iontas
Jan. 18th, 2014 02:41 am (UTC)
I just got to watch the episode and then came straight to read your ramble. Great Ramble! Also, I loved this episode! I thought it was so well done. I agree with everything you said. I am ok with Dean leaving in that I don't think he could have done anything else at that point. I think he is in a very dark place right now. I do feel bad for Sam. But I have to admit I hated him a little bit at the end.(A soft,sad hate.) I know I have to give him a pass, he is processing a whole lot. But I thought (hoped) he understood more by now. I also wanted to remind Sam when he was saying that he was ok with dying that he was the one who decided to do the trials because he wanted to prove that it was survivable. Dean was ready to die then too. But you are right. Dean's leaving works here. It was just so very sad to see what Dean went through in this episode. I am worried about his mental state.

As for Crowley, the guy just grows on you! I want to hate him, but at the end of the day he is a business man. But I also think he does care somewhat. I think the ritual changed him and we now have a kinder gentler king of hell! The all have such good timing and chemistry, I love the way they play off each other. I can't wait for next week's episode! Hopefully next week I will be on time!
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:44 pm (UTC)
I do feel bad for Sam. But I have to admit I hated him a little bit at the end.(A soft,sad hate.) I know I have to give him a pass, he is processing a whole lot. But I thought (hoped) he understood more by now. I also wanted to remind Sam when he was saying that he was ok with dying that he was the one who decided to do the trials because he wanted to prove that it was survivable.

SO. TRUE. And I love that you said it. This all started b/c of the trials and Sam saying that he would come out of it b/c he knew Dean wouldn't. AND even though he'd been ready to die, when pressed, he chose to live.

I just hope that once Sam works through his anger and pain he is able to come to a place of compassion for his brother and recognize why Dean made the choices that he did. It was for Sam as much as it was for Dean.

I'm looking forward to seeing Crowley and Dean's interactions. Should be interesting!!
tabaqui
Jan. 18th, 2014 02:58 am (UTC)
Another excellent ramble/review! I totally agree with your first 'rant' - Dean needs time alone (though it will really give him time to stew on all his 'mistakes', sadly, i wish he wouldn't do that) and so does Sam. I'm glad Castiel stayed to help.

Man, *both* these boys have done such amazing, amazing work this season. DAMN.

I think the car ran out of gas because Castiel hardly ever *drives*. I doubt it even occurred to him, and he didn't have a car when he worked at the mini-mart place, so - just one of those things you know about in the abstract but when you're actually driving (and probably really concentrating), it just doesn't register.

This episode was just full of awesome moments and heartbreak and oh, boys, *boys*. I loved Castiel and Dean both meeting on some level, finally really understanding and accepting each other. I hope Sam lets go of his anger soon, because he just can't *die*, cant just give up. I know being the thing that keeps someone else alive is a hard, hard, hard thing, but him being dead won't actually *help* anything. And when Dean came to him in his dreamscape and said 'i've got a plan, you can live, just say yes', he *did*. So....

I dunno how badly he really wants to die.

I need to re-watch, but this was just...*good*. Extremely good. And i think Crowley really is more human than he'd like to admit. :)
gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:47 pm (UTC)
This episode was just full of awesome moments and heartbreak and oh, boys, *boys*. I loved Castiel and Dean both meeting on some level, finally really understanding and accepting each other. I hope Sam lets go of his anger soon, because he just can't *die*, cant just give up. I know being the thing that keeps someone else alive is a hard, hard, hard thing, but him being dead won't actually *help* anything. And when Dean came to him in his dreamscape and said 'i've got a plan, you can live, just say yes', he *did*. So....

ALL OF THIS. Exactly. I don't think Sam 'wants' to die, I think he was ready to but Dean "talked him out of it." However, he did say yes and, after all, he had promised to get through the trials and show Dean the light at the end of the tunnel, so...yeah. I hope that's what he finally comes to realize.

Can't wait to see where they take this. :)
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jesters_tear82
Jan. 18th, 2014 07:43 pm (UTC)
& We're back! Hello ramble, so good to read you!

- So, who do we prefer as the next ruler of hell..? My vote is hanging in the balance! ;) Abaddon is such a cool chick, I love a strong female baddie. BUT Crowley is so wonderfully sarcastic, & it's so refreshing to witness his left-over humanity from the trials (because I do think he was sorry about Kevin, & maybe he even likes the boys, just a little bit ;)

- Cas in this ep, being a true friend to Dean - I'm glad to see his human experience leaving its mark on him. he recently made the mistake of trusting the wrong guy too so he relates to Dean's pain & understands his reasons. So different from Cas - angel of the Lord we first met 5 years ago.

- Sammy's back! I've missed him. I don't resent his behavior towards Dean right after, I just wish we had some more understanding as to why he's so prepared to die (was?), & would like to see him fighting to stay by Dean's side, in life or death. Fresh out of the trials, I got his depression & weariness, but besides that, I really thought he accepted & even liked the whole MoL business, and the Batcave as their workplace + home.. now I'm fearing being possessed by Gadriel & killing Kevin will be another reason to feel ready to call it quits. Also, didn't the Goddess in episode 8 said he was falling apart from the inside? & now, so fast he's mostly healed.. is there something we're missing here?

- & finally our broken Dean.. :( I'm not upset about the time apart, I think they both need that distance to gain some perspective. I'm wondering if Dean withdrew before Sam had a chance to attack. while he does feel so unworthy & poisonous to those he loves I also felt he chose to walk away before Sam ditches him again, & that's why Sam said that's not the real problem (meaning they have other issues to resolve between them). You know it's interesting, with Dean I feel like the show's lacking his own story/"quest", while with Sam we're lacking insight, an inner character's view. Because we're always seeing things through Dean's eyes & feeling his pain the deepest, right? Just a thought.

See you next week, dear G.

gaelicspirit
Jan. 20th, 2014 09:51 pm (UTC)
So, who do we prefer as the next ruler of hell..?

Honestly, I'm not sure! It think it would be interesting to have it be a full-on baddie like Abbadon whom we can cheer for their demise...but it would also be interesting to have Crowley around and see how his human side ended up playing through his "rule" of Hell...especially with God missing and the Angels out of Heaven.

I'm not sure, but I'm happy to see what happens! :)

I'm wondering if Dean withdrew before Sam had a chance to attack.

Good point. Maybe. If I were feeling as broken and vulnerable as Dean was in that moment, I'd probably do the same thing.

You know it's interesting, with Dean I feel like the show's lacking his own story/"quest", while with Sam we're lacking insight, an inner character's view.

That's an excellent way to put it! I totally agree. :)

See you after the next epi! :)
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