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Two cents on a spoiler, and the random

I don't seek out spoilers, but sometimes they find me. I'm not really upset about this, generally, but sometimes it does prompt thought. Please to not be looking under the cut if you do not want to be spoiled.

In other non-spoilerish news, I am giddy about my upcoming visit to see thruterryseyes this weekend. We swap locations every 4-6 months and it's my turn to go to her. Last time I got to learn how to throw knives. This time, we get tat's. Yup! Tat's. Mine was polished by my friend amyblair's artist of a husband, and is a dedication to my baby girl. It is her sign (Cancer) twisted into a Celtic knot with her nickname, Mo Chuisle, beneath it.

Not only that, but Terry and I, and if all goes well, hopefully the fabulous
novembersguest as well, are going to see My Bloody Valentine on its premiere night this Friday. SQUEE!!! I'll be posting thinky thoughts on it when I return. Under a cut, of course, for those of you who are being good and waiting to see it. :)

If anyone is still reading Weapon and the Wound, I have Chapter 4 half done and will be working on it more when I return from Terry's. I hope to have it posted by the 24th so that there's not so much of a wait this time. Sorry for that.

Last bit o'random: Mo Chuisle is in a healthy phase and I'm ever-so-grateful because she is such a fabulous kid. She told me this morning that I was her favorite friend. Hee. Also? I got a 'gig' as a full-time contractor. Means a bit more balancing to the juggling act that is life, but! it also means more funds with which to support the act. :)

So, recently I was emailed by no less than four people about a particular spoiler that was on TVGuide.com about there being a potential additional Winchester brother. There seemed to be great lamenting and gnashing of teeth about this news. So, when asked my two cents, here’s what I had to say:

IF this is a legitimate storyline possibility, and not a way for Kripke to weed out a possible good vs bad idea based on preliminary fan reaction (like a covert Advisory Board), then I’m actually intrigued. They have to go somewhere with Season 5. Kripke thought Season 4 would be it and he's been to Hell and brought down the angels and of course our boys will stop Armageddon (somehow)... what's next? Having the possibility of another brother is pretty damn big, and yes, it IS playing with fire.


There's no way it's an older brother -- the John we saw in "In the Beginning" was so innocent and so very much in love with his Mary that he would never have cheated on her. You got the impression that he didn't even... hell, swear or smoke pot while over in Vietnam. He was a straight-laced soldier, dedicated, devoted, humble.


However, in the 22 (ish) years between Mary's death and his own, he lived a hard life, raising two boys the best he could in a very violent world. The idea that he found comfort in the arms of a woman is not out of the realm of possibility and actually makes him a lot more human in my book. Doesn't mean he ever stopped loving Mary. His devotion to her was still evident by the way he said "I want Mary alive" in "Salvation."


So, this mystery brother will be younger than Sam, IMO. How much younger, I'm not sure, but if they go through with this, I'd wager he's probably late teens, early twenties. It wouldn't be something, I don't think, John would have done in the first couple of years after Mary died with Sam just a baby and Dean so traumatized and John, himself, just learning the ins and outs of hunting.


As for what this means for the brothers? It changes their dynamic, certainly. If this brother is for real, and not some kind of a hoax, it will turn Sam from baby brother to middle brother. And it will heap more responsibility on Dean because he just does that to himself. I think it will make both brothers not only further question their past relationship with their father, but take a hard look at their own lives and the ways the look for escape.


Dean, especially. As far as we know, all of the women Sam has slept with have either died or are a demon, so he doesn't have much to worry about in the way of potential prodigy, but Dean does. And will this brother be a hunter? Will he know anything about this life? Will they want to protect him from it or tuck him into the fold where they can keep an eye on him? Will it mean that Sam can take a break because Dean won't be alone? Or will it mean they are like the Three Musketeers?


Will this brother be innocent or evil? Will his mother have anything to do with this? Will he be introduced as an antagonist to the brothers or will he be an ally? I mean, either way, you have to admit, it will be interesting to watch their reactions.


I tell you, as long as Jensen is in the show, I'm in for the long haul. I have no parameters that they "must" stay between in order for me to like it. I would be sad or disappointed if either of the brothers went permanently to the darkside, but ultimately? it's not my story. And I want to see how Kripke and Co are going to play it out.


Okay, so maybe that was more than two cents... ;)



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Jan. 14th, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC)
Okay, I whizzed past the spoiler as I'm doing 'no go' this season, *g. Had to smile at the kniife throwing! Tat's ????? no idea hunny, inform this gal, please.

As for the Bloody Valentine, eeek I just couldn't go see it. I don't do horror and having done 3D movies in Florida I was freeking out with PG, so I guess I am going to miss seeing Jensen though I've seen a few trailers here in the UK and he was HOT - that's not a spoiler huh, cos he's always hot and I was ducking, sooo definitely not a spoiler guys, it's 3DDDDD. LOL.

Enjoy the film. I've got part three bookmarked but its been a busy footie week *g so I'm planning on chilling with it tomorrow, and finishing off the other half bottle of red that I started whilst we (Chelsea) BBQ'd the Shrimpers (Southend Football Club) in the FA Cup round. *vbg*

Take care. Jane :)
Jan. 15th, 2009 01:27 am (UTC)
Good -- I never want to inadvertently spoil people who don't want to be spoiled. If... that made sense.

ANYWAY!!! I have to tell you something about Mo Chuisle that I'm sure only YOU would appreciate. On Saturday she and I were running errands and I promised her that if she were a good girl (and at 2 the definition of two is loose... meaning... please don't throw a temper tantrum) I would get her a 'prise.

Well, she was good, and she wanted to pick out a ball. There was a basket at the end of an aisle with a ton of sports balls in it and she made a bee-line to the soccer balls with a screech: "PAPA'S BALL!"

We purchased said soccer ball and she hasn't let it go since. I kid you not -- sleeps with it, has it in the bathroom during her bath, in the car on the way to daycare. She'll kick it across the room and if it hits the opposite wall she yells "I goyd!" (I goaled).

She insists that we ask her first before we play with it. Her papa is rather proud. :) Hee.

ANYWAY... I'm a sucker for scary movies even though I usually can't sleep afterwards. Maybe I should warn Terry 'bout that little quirk, eh? I'll see if I can make my thinky thoughts enough for you, but at some point, you'll at LEAST have to see the salty goodness that is our boy... whew. He's just... yeah.

I hope you enjoy part 3!! Enjoy the red. :)
Jan. 14th, 2009 11:18 pm (UTC)
Sounds like such a BLAST of a weekend!!! So cool that you've found other SPN fangirls to pal around with. My gal pal in Canada, well, that's just a bit too far for a quick pal-around for me, but I told her that I'd be willing to meet half way, maybe in St. Louis. I think it would be fun to go out solo, make that drive alone, meet up and just do SPN things without kids and hubbies. But to do that on the weekend release of MBV? That's just special kinda cool!

As for the spoiler.. um.. I could give you more info on that one but I won't unless you really want it. I've seen the sides for this ep.

So glad to hear you wee babe is fine and on the healthy end of things. Makes us just sigh in relief as parents and being their best friend? Dude, that's high HIGH praise in the kid world. You just gotta know you're doin' something pretty perfect to get that.

I have been temporarily stymied in my attempts to finish part 3 of W&W. But I work tonight so it's easier to focus on reading when I'm stuck at my desk so I really look forward to getting back to it. I think I got about a 1/4 of the way through when things just got hectic.

New puppy comes home tomorrow so that will redefine chaos in our house. Oh but sometimes you just gotta embrace the chaos and let'er roll.

Again, have a great weekend!!!
Jan. 15th, 2009 01:17 am (UTC)
If you can give me the scoop on the down low (email?) and without giving toooooo much away (I don't read sides), then yeah, I'd be up for more intel. Just because I'd like to see if the two cents I put out there is something people would point and laugh at or... yeah.

I am so excited for your puppy reveal tomorrow!!! You'd think it was happening to us! :) *laugh*

Meanwhile, I've already prepped the hubs for baby duty since THE BOYS ARE BACK and told him I'd be writing my stream of consciousness afterwards so, be prepared! :) SQUEE!!!!
Jan. 14th, 2009 11:39 pm (UTC)
Hope you have a fun weekend!!

Glad your daughter is well at the moment and congrats on the work :-)

Looking forward to catching up with chapter 3 hopefully tomorrow.
Jan. 15th, 2009 01:34 am (UTC)
Thanks, lady! I'm enjoying her right now.

Hope you like chapter 3 -- I know you have a lot on your plate with all you're reading and the list of rec's you're trying to put together. Take your time. I just always look forward to your thumbs up/thumbs down assessment.
Jan. 15th, 2009 01:57 am (UTC)
Hi. That's wonderful news about your little one. Hope things continue to go well. You certainly deserve it.

I don't comment very often (hangs head in shame) but I do want let you know that I love reading everything that you post. I can always rely on you to have the best episode reveiws and I read your account of attending the Convention with great interest. I am going to my very first con in April (both Jensen and Jared are going to be there) and I am both terrified and excited at the prospect of meeting them.

I hope you have a great time catching up with your fellow fangirl and that you enjoy the gorgeous Jensen on the big screen!
Jan. 18th, 2009 05:18 am (UTC)
Hey there -- no shame in lurking. I am glad to know that you enjoy what I write. Thanks for letting me know! :) You are going to have such an amazing time in April!! I'm so excited for you. Drop by to let me know how it went, will you? You will get to meet some lovely, lovely people in fans of this show.

And Jensen on the big screen? Be. Still. My. Heart.
Jan. 15th, 2009 02:13 am (UTC)
Spoilers and a Soapbox Rant!!!
I am a person who doesn't like change! I like routine.... kind of stepped out of the box there when I decided to emigrate to Canada!

But, why can't they just leave this show alone?? Personally, I much preferred it when it was just the two brothers driving across the country dealing with the 'big bad' of the week. I couldn't stand Bela or Ruby or what they did to the show and the brotherly dynamic - I was not impressed with how they tried to turn Dean into an idiot. 'They' of course being 'The Powers that Be'. Going down the Angels and Demons route was a brave one, and for the most part I think it has worked. I know they are trying to introduce other characters to take the pressure off Jensen and Jared, but they get paid well for what they do. I know that they work long hard hours, but so do a lot of other people - for a lot less money. so, they can both just suck it up and enjoy the riches as far as I am concerned.

Introducing another character, and one that would so obviously have a pivotal role in the show, is to my mind a huge mistake. Like you, I will watch the show anyway because of Jensen, but I want to watch it and enjoy it. Season Three just left me frustrated with thoughts of how much better it could have been done. If they complete the Lileth and the end of the world story, and deal with whether Sam really is ever going to go darkside or not, I know that this leaves them with a bit of a dilemma for Season Five. But, why not just stick to a formula that so obviously works? i don't get it. But, I am a scientist, not an artist so maybe I lack the imagination to see the possibilites and potential of this new character. This is why I read your stuff - your imagination is more than enough for hte both of us!!!

Okay, stepping down from the soapbox now and moving on to none spoiler related items, so glad to hear you and Terry are getting together for a weekend. Hope that you guys have a great time together, Enjoy My Bloody Valentine, let us know if it is any good. That one will probably have to wait until DVD and a night when the hubs is at work! Also, great news on the job and that your little one is going through a healthy spell, a relief for you both I am sure. I was also pleased to read that she is already developing an appreciation for 'the beatiful game'!! Maybe you could begin to brainwash herinto supporting a better team though!

Take care, I am off now to try and get Weapon and the Wound Chapter Two reviewed, I have read it, and Ch3, more than once and still haven't organised my thoughts!!

Jan. 18th, 2009 05:22 am (UTC)
Re: Spoilers and a Soapbox Rant!!!


Do you hate it every time I do that? Sorry. I just can't help it! I just get all caught up in your passion about what you say when you reply.

Thank you for being so clear with your thoughts -- I love it that you're able to share them like that. I did find out through another flister that the epi may not be quite what the spoiler leaked it to be... So, I have renewed hope. Not that I had lessened hope, but just... a minor sense of trepidation, if you will. *ahem*

ANYWAY, I will be posting a tat pic and thoughts on MBV tomorrow when I'm slightly more coherent. Right now my back is thrumming a bit from holding myself so tightly during the tat and I'm find sleep is being somewhat ellusive...

Take care of you and I can't wait to see what your thoughts are on Weapon and the Wound so far. I "wrote" in my head the whole way down to Terrys and now can't wait to get back to my laptop and get it on paper for the rest of Chapter 4.

Slainte, my friend!
Jan. 18th, 2009 05:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Spoilers and a Soapbox Rant!!!
Ha ha!!

No, I am used to people doing it all the time! But, only since I moved to North America, I had never heard of Streetcar before then. I had the somewhat dubious pleasure of working as a trainer for a college hockey team in Calgary, and they used to yell that at me... a lot!! Especially when someone went down hurt!!

Back home in England it was always references to Stella Artois!

I haven't seen any of the recent spoilers, so I guess I will just have to wait to see the episode. I try not to actively seek them out, but will read stuff if I come across it.

Glad you had a great weekend with Terry, that tat looks great, hopefully your back has calmed down form all the clenching!! Must have been nice to see some warmer weather. We have had ridiculously cold weather here, down to almost -30C, which is cold even for here. today it is -10C and feels almost tropical!

Take care, enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Jan. 15th, 2009 02:47 am (UTC)
hurraaaaay! more fic soon!
Jan. 18th, 2009 05:22 am (UTC)
*laughs* Yup! Very soon!
Jan. 18th, 2009 06:01 am (UTC)
hurrraaay oh and love love your icon!
Jan. 15th, 2009 03:43 am (UTC)
Congrats on the gig! And it's good to hear that your daughter is healthy again. I hope she stays healthy. I love your new fic. I can't wait for more. I think that your thoughts on the spoilers are interesting. I can always count on you to give a fresh perspective on what's going on.
Jan. 18th, 2009 05:23 am (UTC)
Thank you!! I'm glad you're enjoying and that you took my thoughts as a fresh perspective. I like that phrasing. :)

I also appreciate the well-wishes on Mo Chuisle. I think we should have at least another week of well-baby before another fever hits and I plan to soak it all up.

Talk to you soon!
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Jan. 18th, 2009 05:17 am (UTC)
Got the tat -- took almost two hours. I'm going to post a pic tomorrow with my summary/mini-meta on MBV. I clenched the whole time, so now my muscles in my lower back are weeping.

But, I'm pleased with it. :) I so love that I was able to have this break; I do not take it lightly, this opportunity. But I missed my girl and my guy and I'm ready to go home tomorrow and bury my nose in her hair and have him hug me tight.

It was FREEZING when I left Lawrence and in the middle of a snowstorm, but it's been nice here, about 4 hours south. Hopefully I can bring some of this warmer weather back with me tomorrow.

Jan. 15th, 2009 06:04 am (UTC)
Hi Gaelic!
I am with you, as long as Jensen is there so am I. If you find out the lowdown on the episode I would love the link to it! There was a little more info at EW.com.
Here is the link if you want to read.

Also really good interview with Sera. But it does have spoilers!!!

Jan. 18th, 2009 05:24 am (UTC)
Dude -- thanks for the links! That was awesome. Man, I want to be Sera. Well, not be *her* but do what she does. How flippin' awesome would that be...

*sighs, then returns to fanfic*
Jan. 18th, 2009 08:00 am (UTC)
You COULD do what she does!! It's only a matter of time!!
Jan. 15th, 2009 10:17 pm (UTC)
Read spoiler...adopts wait and see attitude. As far as you not being able to sleep after a horror movie, just remember you're sharing the front room with Edward and my husbands twisted sense of humor so you're on your own there.

Laughs to self.

Tapping fingers waiting for your ass to get here.

21 hours, give or take...
Jan. 18th, 2009 05:24 am (UTC)

I'm writing from your office and you're asleep. How stealth am I??
Jan. 18th, 2009 09:04 pm (UTC)
So, I haven't been out there much lately. I apologize. I've read your tales and not commented yet. I will, though. I promise. :)

As for the spoiler ... ouch. That's all I'm gonna say about it since others might not want to know. But I love your view on it. As always, you're open and optimistic about it and that's the way fans should be. Otherwise ... they're not fans. :) But that's just my opinion and the world would be a boring place if we all felt the same way, eh?

Anyways, always love to read your thoughts, girl. Hope all is well with you. And congrats on the tat. Looks cool. :)
Jan. 18th, 2009 09:05 pm (UTC)
And I should remember to sign in before I reply to something ...
Sorry. The above is my comment. Just to clarify. :)
Jan. 24th, 2009 02:26 am (UTC)
Re: And I should remember to sign in before I reply to something ...
Hey girl! I missed this somehow -- I'm so sorry. I've actually been thinking about you lately as I'm starting a new position and I knew you'd been a bit sickly during the beginning of your new job. I hope things are going better for you.

I hope that when you do read/comment you have enjoyed, but no rush. The stories aren't going anywhere -- and I always look forward to what you have to say. :)

My best to you,
Apr. 6th, 2009 08:36 am (UTC)

I'm going to be sick. Absolutely sick!

I'm the one who nudged you about this spoiler, and now? I may have been totally wrong. And I'm sick. I really didn't think I'd mind there being a 3rd brother but after thinking it through, and realizing how that paints John's character, ESPECIALLY having seen the previews for the 4/23 (grumbles at stupid hiatus) ep, I'm going to be sick....


*sigh* Take a look at my post if you have time.. I mention you at the end.. :D
Apr. 6th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
Okay -- I read and commented. :)
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