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I heard a rumor...

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...that our boys have been picked up for a 6th Season. As a die-hard viewer, fan, and fanfic writer, you'd think I'd be over the moon about this. Oddly enough, though, I'm hesitant and pondering what this means for my favorite brothers, my hero and muse, and the storyline(s) that have kept me engaged for going on five years now.

I first saw the news over on a supernatural.tv thread I follow.These are basically the same thoughts I shared over on that thread, but it's a small community, so... I thought I'd see what you guys thought about all of this. ErikaAoi posted the link to an article and novembersguest followed it up with some news that Kripke was planning on going intimate next season to differ from the apocolyptic size of the recent seasons.

I've enjoyed both the intimate feel of S1 and the world-affecting feel of S5 -- for differing reasons.

In S1, we got to know the boys, know enough of their past to care deeply about them, get engaged in their 'mission' and believe in them to the point of being devestated right alongside them when they lost their father. But there's only so long you can travel around the country hunting monsters on a TV show and continue to make it compelling.

You'd have to have some kind of formula that would keep your main characters from forming attachments and finding reasons to stay or places to go back to. Take Quantum Leap, for instance. It's a show that had the same formula for, like, what? Six years? Sam Beckett leaps from life to life, putting right what once went wrong and hoping each time his next leap would be the leap home.

Only...he never goes home. And it's the leaping that was the formula for keeping the show compelling. Sam was never able to form attachments (with the exception of Al, of course) and you never knew where or when he would end up.

Thus, the apocolypse entering the picture. There's only so long you can mess with the forces of evil before they start to mess back and make it personal, right? So, going big like they have has been a heart-wrenching, wild ride that feels almost too much for our heroes to survive. The fate of the world now rests on the (nicely muscled, very broad) shoulders of two blue-collar guys from Kansas.

But the thing is, because we started small, we were able to stand on a slowly-built, believable foundation that these two and their family could have caused enough ruckus to be on the radar of both Heaven and Hell. And not only that, we see (even if they don't always) that they are actually capable of not only fighting this war...but winning.

So, both the "saving people/hunting things" and the "the world is going to end and if I don't stop it nobody will and we'll all die" approaches have had me captivated.

My biggest pondering about a 6th season was mainly (at the risk of quoting Buffy) where do we go from here? And if it is indeed intimate, a look at what happens to the world and the people in it -- specifically our boys -- when the Devil has been defeated or stuck back in his cage, then I'm on board. There was evil in the world before Lucifer was released and it's not like once he's gone all evil goes away...or does it???? I'd be mainly interested to see how the guys handle hunting evil when The Big Bad is gone -- do the rest of the baddies just run amuck? Or are we talking, as Zach seemed to insinuate, Heaven on earth?
 
It would be interesting to see what Kripke and Co. think about that. I can see the possibilities for episodes with action, and I can imagine the episodes of humor...I do wonder how they'd pull the angst that Jensen/Dean's so damn good at portraying, but I have no doubt they'd figure out somehing. Because even if they DO go intimate, it's not like everything that came before would be forgotten.

He still had no childhood. He still lost his father. He'd still fought all of his life. He'd still have gone to Hell... And Sam? That boy has more issues than I have time to list. So yeah, angst.

Not only that? But what happens to Cas if the apocolypse is...ended? Does he simply return to Heaven after all he's been through and seen? After how much the Winchesters have changed him? Also...I'm not entirely convinced the writers are done killing off people (boys aside). Ellen and Jo broke my heart, but there's still one more player that would devestate me a bit and would certainly help carry out the angst we love into a 6th season if they weren't around: Bobby.

It would be encouraging, however, to know that a Season 6 was out there to aliviate a little concern that the boys wouldn't stay/be dead at the end of this battle. I could still see Kripke pulling a Butch and Sundance, though... since you never actually see B&S die at the end of the movie. It would be a helluva cliffie...

That said? I would hate for them to drag the apocolypse out into another season. The suspense is killing me. Let it end. And go from there.

One thing I do wonder, is how 'into' a Seaon 6 the actors are -- mainly because they both just got engaged and we've heard from them repeatedly how they miss their families in L.A. during the long months of filming. Not only that, but I would LOVE to see Jensen in a movie again... One that is outside the realm of horror. A western, perhaps??

What? A girl can dream, can't she?

I'll shut up now. Thanks for letting me think it out. What do you guys think about this?

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borgmama1of5
Jan. 23rd, 2010 03:08 pm (UTC)
This is the most concise analysis of how SPN has built from yr 1 to yr 5 that I've read, and I couldn't have put it better!

Kripke did say in an interview that he was going to end the Apocalypse this year whether or not yr 6 happens. (I have the link to it saved somewhere if you want it.)

But I do worry about the caliber of writing for a yr 6. I'd rather they end successfully than drag out a painful-to-watch year.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 08:42 pm (UTC)
LOL! Well, thank you. I was thinking out loud.

I am glad he's said he'll end it. As much as I love this show and these characters, another year with the Devil on earth might be the death of me... :)

Could be interesting, no matter what they decide. Hmmm.

Oh, btw, I'm working down my reading list and you're up next. Expect comments from me soon.
lovinjackson
Jan. 23rd, 2010 03:13 pm (UTC)
To be honest? This has been another thing to have me annoyed with Kripke. Dont get me wrong? I aprreciate the man for bringing me the Winchesters and I will always be thankful to him for that but do i have faith in him? No!

He said that this wasnt going to be a fight between heaven and hell and what does he do when Season 4 starts? He brings in angels and since then what has the show been about? Now I have been entralled and I love the show. But he had promised it wasnt going to be that.

He made SUCH a big deal about not going past Season 5. He even said that if the network overrode him and made another season he would sabatage the show by jumping the shark until they lost viewers (which saying that alone is an insult to the crew, actors and viewers who have made him what he is) and when I first heard that I was like NO! I dont want it to end and not like that. I became accustomed to the idea of ending at Season 5, I understood his reasoning even though the thought of not having Dean every week is sad LOL. I understood and I was ready.

THEN the boys start saying that there contract has always been six years when the whole show had been telling us the contracts were for 5 ... Kripke got me ready to say goodbye and be happy with it ... and now? NOW once again he is doing the exact opposit of what he said he was going to do ... AGAIN? How can we trust a damn word the man says?

As far as my opinion goes on a sixth season? He better have a damn good story to make this work. I do not want my show to fall anti-climatic. I honestly dont want Kripke and co to do something canon show wise that I wont like (hasnt happened yet all together. I pretty much role with everything lol) I mean a whole new season? That's a whole 22 episodes of dealing with the aftermath of the apocolypse ... can they do that without making it stale? Dont get me wrong I will watch Jensen read a freaking telephone book but I care about the storyline and I care about these characters story too much to want it to just fizzle.

Do I want a sixth season. I honestly dont know? If it is 100% true? Well then I will settle within myself that i have Dean Winchester for 22 more episodes (coz that is one character i will miss most of all) It will be a nice perk of this. Not having to let go yet and if its a done deal we have no choice to drrol over him just that little bit longer.

But I agree with you. I dont want them to extend the apocalypse storyline and I have heard rumors that's one of the possibilities. And I would also love to see Jensen in movies. I want them to leave the show while they are still enjoying it. I dont want them leaving the show thinking "thank god this is finally over" it's been too much of a family and too much fun for that to happen but you're right, they do miss their families ..

In the words of Dean Winchester "Oh, so torn ..." LOL

I guess we can only wait and see.

You know what the ggod thing is? That if season 6 does happen? It should have just ended when I visit. We can celebrate a post supernatural life together in person LOL

I get your feelings ;)

Lets just clutch Dean to us and enjoy him whether we lose him end of season 5 or end of season 6 LOL

gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 08:44 pm (UTC)
Dear Mr. Kripke,

This letter is to warn you that you might want to cover your ass. My good friend Tara no longer trusts you and she's a force to be reckoned with when she's got a mad on. So...hide, or behave.

Your fan,

Gaelic

:)

I know what you mean about being torn. NOT seeing Dean?? It's hard to imagine. I mean, my life before SPN and Dean was so, SO different from my life now. I really find it hard to picture what life will be like when they are done.

Hmmmm...

PS
Have you started writing yet? ;) JK!
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kiltiebum
Jan. 23rd, 2010 03:24 pm (UTC)
Oh, so torn!
While not being overly impressed with S5, I do worry about a possible S6 and I think it's pretty much inevitable.

I think TPTB ARE dragging the apocalypse arc over to S6 already - we really shouldn't be wasting our time on fillers like Sam Interrupted and Swap Meat at this stage in the season. However, if S6 is def the last one - then hopefully all the writers will blast in there with all guns blazing (much like the start of S4 was, remember?) and give us one hell of a rocking final season.

Then onto the feature film.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 08:46 pm (UTC)
Re: Oh, so torn!
However, if S6 is def the last one - then hopefully all the writers will blast in there with all guns blazing (much like the start of S4 was, remember?) and give us one hell of a rocking final season.

Then onto the feature film.


Yes! This! I like! :)

No matter what the final decision is about S6, I really really REALLY hope the apocolypse ends with the finale. Like. Really. *sighs*

Guess we'll see...
annie200
Jan. 23rd, 2010 03:27 pm (UTC)
I was perfectly OK with there not being a Season 6 until this ridiculously long hiatus made me realise just how much I miss Spn. It's pretty much all the TV I watch plus or minus 3 hours per week.
Having said that, you have pretty much voiced all my concerns. I would be very glad to be rid of the Apocalypse, and I much preferred S1 and especially S2 (haven't even rewatched the DVDs of S4, although I'm loving S5) but I do want to remember the series in its entirety as a highpoint of my TV viewing, and not feel that they lost the plot back in S5 and couldn't cobble together another one! But then this is EK who seems on current evidence to be an incredibly inventive and original writer, and who has surely fantasised a little over the last 12 months anout where he would go if S6 were to become reality. I'm sure the discussions must have involved some detail of his story arc which convinced Dawn Ostroff?

I feel for Jared and Jensen getting married and wanting to be in LA with their partners( so I'm pretty certain no S7) but I guess on the other hand there is a certain amount of kudos attached to being renewed for a 6th season based pretty much entirely on your acting skills. This must have been what they dreamed of starting out in S1 so I'm sure that they are both professional enough to make the best of the situation and want to go out in style.
And after all it is only 9 months and they're done and can go off and hopefully have fantastic future careers.

A western? Oh yes, that would work. But then I'd like to see Jensen do a comedy as well. And at some time in the future i'd love to see them work together again in something totally differnen just to see whether the unique on-screen chemistry is primarily Sam and Dean or equally Jensen and Jared.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 08:50 pm (UTC)
I was perfectly OK with there not being a Season 6 until this ridiculously long hiatus made me realise just how much I miss Spn.

LOL -- so true! And I hear that we're going to have another mini hiatus to account for the Olympics. Argh!

This must have been what they dreamed of starting out in S1 so I'm sure that they are both professional enough to make the best of the situation and want to go out in style.

Very, very good point. And Jensen has said before -- in fact I remember him saying in Chicago -- that he's in for the long haul. He just wants to keep working. Which I applaud. No ego with that. :)

And you're right -- their on-screen chemistry is pretty much unmatched.

Hmmm... we'll see...
primrose_1
Jan. 23rd, 2010 03:51 pm (UTC)
I'm not going to spend a great deal of time worrying about it. I have NO IDEA what they'll do with a season 6, but it would give me that much longer before I have to say goodbye. I think they can still do an overall story arch that ISN'T related to their family or demons or the apocalypse. Either way, I'm in for the ride, and if season 6 turns out to be more like the Tilt a Whirl than the Colossus, it's still a good ride.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 08:52 pm (UTC)
I'm not going to spend a great deal of time worrying about it.

Probably the wisest of all choices. :)

I was really just curious about how everyone felt -- especially when I realized I didn't instantly start bouncing with glee when I heard. :)

You're right, though. It's always been a good ride. Don't know why that might change. :)

*grin*
qultng1
Jan. 23rd, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure how I feel either. The largest part of me is thrilled I think. Do I trust Kripke? NO! I do not. He's done a lot of lying to the fans and poking fun at us. Once or twice, okay, but he got carried away with it.

Jensen said in Chicago that he would keep doing the show as long as long as it was being aired. That made me VERY happy. :D

Like you, tho, I'd love to see more of him beyond Supernatural. What girl wouldn't love to see him in a western!? Maybe it's all those pics of Jensen with horses from before? :D I envisioned him on a horse when I wrote Desperate Measures, but Sam insisted on doing the riding. A second chapter fixed that, tho. :D

I think Jensen's the most under appreciated amazing actor in the business and it kind of frosts me that he doesn't get more recognition for his craft. Maybe he's too good looking to be taken seriously by the powers that be? I don't know.

Anyway, as I type this, I'm deciding that I'm going to be happy about S 6 and take it as it comes. We've all been through a lot together and I'm in it for the long run. Kripke be damned. Oops! Did I say that out loud? Sorry. *ahem*

*adopts wait and see attitude*
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 08:54 pm (UTC)
Good attitude to adopt, I think. No use speculating too much, right? We'll just end up spinning. I think I was mostly just curious what everyone thought when I realized I wasn't jumping for joy.

I wasn't upset, either, just... more... uncertain, I guess.

I think Jensen's the most under appreciated amazing actor in the business and it kind of frosts me that he doesn't get more recognition for his craft.

Could, Agree. More.

Thanks, Nana. :)
a3voice
Jan. 23rd, 2010 04:36 pm (UTC)
Hey love, long time no speak hehe!

I actually hope they don't go for a sixth season, like you I've been hooked from the very first episode and have been a die hard fan ever since, loyal to the end but you can't top the apocolypse! You can't out do it and neither can you just go back to the normal run of things, hunting and burning bones, with the boys never being able to settle down. It's not fair on the boys, actors or us. It would kind of be an anti climax because then how would this one end? WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO? Still...but at the same time evil will exist whether Lucifer is sent back to hell or not, the Angel's will smite who they want lol, so it will be their heaven on earth, and not necessarily for the humans.

I have Jan/Feb's issue of supernatural, where Kripke actually said that he didn't want to continue on and end up diluting, spoiling and spreading the story thin, he wanted to go out strong. I think ended it now in season five would be strong.

However, he did say it didn't have to mean the end for Supernatural, just the end of Sam and Dean's journey and not in those exact words, it's just my interpretation of it. I don't know how accepting the fans would be of that idea, I'd still be a bit hesistant but I definitely wouldn't write it off before seeing where they were going. Both ideas leave me a little hesistant, new story or same dragged out.

An example, I am a huge fan of Scrubs and Bill Lawerence wrote season 8 like it was the end of Scrubs, the finale was absolutely beautiful but then they got picked up for a ninth season! *sigh* It isn't even scrubs anymore, it's more of a spin off with all these new characters, a different narrator who is no where near as good as JD was and the main characters are background. Basically in my opinion it is absolutely horrible and should have bowed out in season 8!

My point is that, yes we love the show and they love writing the show but all good things come to an end before they become unrecognizable like Scrubs or repetitive. "Oh let's hunt another Wendigo."

The fact is the boys started on a journey which has lead them to the Devil himself, there is no greater evil and somehow them going back to ghost hunting or vamp slaying would be like going backwards, reducing the quality and originality of the show. IMO

*runs off to get magainze for quote*

"The reality is that I have a five year plan and we are going to finish this story this year. We're not going to drag it out or try to stretch it to accommodate and then dilute it and weaken it. We're going to tell this story with a bang and it's going to end. But we are leaving the possibility for a new story to begin. This chapter maybe be over, but there is nothing saying a new story can't begin. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."

Let it end at five please, I have my DVDS! And honestly, like you said I would like for them to now use this platform to make a career for themselves. Movie time, they need to catch up to papa Winchester because he is doing it big. I can't wait to see Losers the cast is ridiculous :D

Schelz <3
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 08:59 pm (UTC)
OMG! Hi!! You're ALIIIIIVEEE!!! :) (just kidding)

It's really good to see you.

Thanks for your thoughts -- you voiced my knee-jerk reaction perfectly. I was trying to find the good in what I first saw as a disappointment. And I still see the possibility of good. Like I said, if they keep it about the boys, keep it compelling, go intimate, I can see it being captivating.

Oh, what am I saying? I'd watch Jensen do anything. But I really hope the storytelling stays good.

And I worry that it'll fade with a 6th season...

*sigh*

Guess we'll see.

Thanks for the magazine quote, though. Because it helps.
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simplycolourful
Jan. 23rd, 2010 04:40 pm (UTC)
I'm a little iffy about another season, I love this show and I love the boys, I just don't know what stories are left.

I hope they finish the apocalypse arch this season, and do something else next one, but they'll probably drag it out, and end with one hell of a cliff hanger this season...
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 09:00 pm (UTC)
I love this show and I love the boys, I just don't know what stories are left.

Yep. Couldn't agree more. Guess we'll all see together, huh?
deangirl1
Jan. 23rd, 2010 04:59 pm (UTC)
Couple a things... First off, Clif has tweeted that this is a very, very big rumour - ie no one knows anything yet/don't get your hopes up yet. My personal feeling is that they will make the announcement at the 100th episode party - big splash and all that...

In the articles I've read where Kripke talks about a possible direction for season 6, he is very encouraging and I am always going to trust him to take us somewhere worthwhile and compelling. There is, in fact, no way to erase all the things that have gone into making these boys so compelling - that will inevitably continue and I would relish the thought of watching them really try to deal with their own personal demons. I think it could easily keep my attention for an entire season. -- ok that's my happy thoughts...

Here are my not so happy thoughts. Let me first say that I still love the show - BUT - I have felt that it hasn't been it's best lately. (I'm ducking for cover here). I feel like the boys are "phoning in" their performances a bit -- it's still better than anything else on tv - mostly - but there have been times when I've thought - wow. He could have gotten so much more out of that scene. Why is this? I think there are several reasons. #1 is the loss of Kim Manners at the helm - to provide a guiding figure in continuity and encouragement and setting the bar. #2 is the fanbase itself. I'd be hard pressed to give 120% day in and day out to a seemingly ungrateful audience - especially when they are attacking my loved ones. #3 is the loved ones themselves - I totally feel for them here - but luckily they are rich enough to afford LOTS of plane trips... I've also felt like we are losing our best writers - Jeremy Carver getting a new gig just about broke my heart... Eric is wonderful - but he's also surrounded with wonderful help...

Overall? I don't know what I'd do without SPN. Jensen has said repeatedly that he will keep doing tv - so unless he goes off to direct - we should still get to see him regularly somewhere... Jared has said he's more interested in movies - his short list for Conan is telling...

I have my fingers crossed for S6. I will still watch, read, and write - I've got these boys under my skin and I can't see that changing...
gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 09:11 pm (UTC)
Good gracious.

I always knew I lived under a rock, but I hear from you and I end up blinking in amazement.

Ooookay. Who is Cliff? And I'm actually pretty good about this bring a rumor, still. If this Cliff guy is in the know, that is. I bet you're right, though. They'd make it official at the 100th epi timeframe. Which is when again?

...he is very encouraging and I am always going to trust him to take us somewhere worthwhile and compelling...

I'm going to go with you on this. I know that Kripke has sometimes said one thing and done another, but the bottom line for me has always been one hell of an entertaining show.

Your points in your not-so-happy list were well put, and I thank you for that. I agree with all of them. But -- Jeremy Carver left?? I didn't hear that! I think I miss out on a lot of these kinds of things because I try so hard to stay unspoiled I miss what ends up being actual NEWS news. Also? What Conan short list for Jared? Conan the Barbarian? Or Conan O'Brien?

See? Rock, I tell you.

Overall? I don't know what I'd do without SPN.

This hit me where I live. I was saying somewhere above that my life before SPN was so different than it is now -- and a lot of that is BECAUSE of SPN. Friends, writing, outlook, internal reflections... just so much that this show has meant to me on a personal level.

So, yeah. You've got a really good point.

I just really, really don't want it to suck, y'know? I don't want another X-files. It would break my heart.
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jackfan2
Jan. 23rd, 2010 05:16 pm (UTC)
Agreed! I just hope Kripke ends the apocalypse arch here in s5 and takes us a new direction in s6.

I am thinking that Kripke'll dial it back in s6. Go back to the format of s1 with monster hunts, weaving in the angst and emotional issues the boys suffered (will suffer) at the end of the apocalypse and where it left them as brothers. Each ep being more of a stand-alone with an emotional arch for the season, rather than a physical one.

As for the prospects for Jared and Jensen, I agree. I want to see them in movies and tv shows. There's a new show out called Human Target and the lead is ... ok, but that vehicle would've been so good for Jensen. I think his charisma and ability to deliver a more cynical/comic role and the action involved would've suited him so much better. Ah well, there will be another for him, right?

Now for Jared. God. I'm so VERY glad he lost that Conan role. YUK! I don't think that would've done him any favors AT. ALL. He did not get the GI JOE role, and that's too bad because as somewhat cheesy as that movie was, the action was great and I'd've loved to have seen him in the lead. OH well, there will be others, right?

Castiel. Hmm.. you're right about him. What to do with an angel who has formed attachments to two humans? Well, I could possibly see God, once the apoco is done and overwith, assigning him to stay with the boys. Or, he might fall, but maintain some of his angel powers, with God's approval, and he goes with the boys on their hunts on occasion. I know. Sounds cheesy but I imagine the writers will figure something out.

Also, with Castiel more involved, they might bring in Ana too. In that instance, we might see a few hunts where Dean and Sam aren't involved, or are less involved. Those wouldn't be my favorites as I'm not all THAT excited about Castiel on his own. He does well in the mix with the boys, but I can't help being delighted that this most recent ep "Sam Interrupted" had neither Castiel OR Bobby in it. I love them both but I get tired of them rushing in to save the day. Really.

Ok. Jensen in a western? Dude, you've just hit on one of my absolute favorite genre's of all time. I would absolutely LOVE to see Jensen do a movie. Moreover, been giving it some thought that if they make a Supernatural movie I'd rather see it as telling the story of the 1800's Winchester brothers. Jensen and Jared playing brother, the decedents of Dean and Sam but in the early 1860's (post Civil War) going around on horseback, fighting evil. I would melt completely to see them in cowboy boots, dusters and six-shooters slung low on their hips. *dies at the mental image*

I'm excited - for totally selfish reasons - that we'll get them back for one more year, but it might be that we see eps where neither are present so they get more down time with their new brides. Hard to tell. Or, because it's the last season, they'll just stick it out and get the job done as a favor to the fans :D

Time will tell! Great thoughts though. I'm eager to see where Kripke and CO take us in s6 and I'll just sit and enjoy the ride. No matter what.

gaelicspirit
Jan. 23rd, 2010 09:14 pm (UTC)
I was just telling deangirl1 that I live under a rock because she also mentioned something about Jared and Conan and I was like, HUH??? I didn't know Jared was up for GI Joe either...

I'm loving your thoughts, girl. :) Very entertaining.

And at the risk of self-promotion, my next solo story (I'm also co-writing a story with LovinJackson) is called Heroes for Ghosts, it's a Western, and you had a very close, uncanny description of the basic plot. Only not ancestors of Dean and Sam. Dean and Sam themselves... ;)

Just, y'know, FYI.

Talk soon!
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kumaproogey
Jan. 23rd, 2010 10:45 pm (UTC)
I think I am in the minority. I am thrilled with the prospect of a 6th season. Part of it is because I am selfish. I have become obsessed with this show like I have never done before in the past (and don't know if I will find again). This show (and my love for this show) has opened me up to several new experiences and incredible people (you are obviously included in that). I want to continue this and don't want to lose something that has literally changed my life (re: meeting Randi at 1st Kazcon). No one wants to be rid of a good thing that makes them happy.

2nd: I have faith and trust in them. There hasn't been a hint of the usual staleness or slump that most shows have at some point w/in 5 seasons. They continue to surpass each season's quality and keep the fans interested.

So as long as the quality continues with the quantity I would be okay/pleased with a 6th...7th...8th...season.
kumaproogey
Jan. 23rd, 2010 10:47 pm (UTC)
P.S. If this doesn't make sense or seems rambled in my defense I was listening to my 'Glee' soundtracks the same time as I wrote it. :)
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jazzyirish
Jan. 23rd, 2010 11:19 pm (UTC)
What do I think? I agree that a Season 6 could be a mixed bag. I don't think it's a done deal yet, but I do believe the CW will make it happen whether Kripke is on board or not.

Frankly, I don't know what to think about whether Kripke will end the apocalypse this season or not - sometimes I think he will and sometimes I think he won't. He's changed his story before when it became necessary. So I take whatever he says with a grain of that salt his boys are always throwing around. ;)

I love the character of Dean Winchester and Jensen is simply amazing in the role. It's a shame that the "important people" fail to notice his talents and give him the recognition he deserves. But beyond Dean, I also generally enjoy the episodes that deal with a continued mythology more than the MOTW stand-alones. I can't imagine what the writers and/or Kripke could come up with for an interesting mythology post-apocalypse. And I think the loss of Kim Manners and some of their best writers has taken its toll in the overall quality and continuity of the show. Kripke may be the creator, but I suspect Kim steered that ship.

One way or another, next year will be the last for Supernatural. I'd love for it to go out with a bang instead of a whimper, but I'll be there no matter what. And let's hope and pray that a combined writers/directors/actors strike doesn't end it prematurely! I can't imagine not seeing the amazing Ackles in some series each week. He'd be great in anything - a western, a spy series (think Jason Bourne/Michael Westen) a detective series (time to bring back Simon & Simon) or just anything really. I also want to see him on the big screen again - he looked fabulous in MBV.

But one last thing. I don't want you to think that just because Supernatural ends, that you have to stop writing your SN fiction - now THAT would be a tragedy! ;)

Catch ya' later,
Irish
gaelicspirit
Jan. 24th, 2010 12:00 am (UTC)
I love the character of Dean Winchester and Jensen is simply amazing in the role. It's a shame that the "important people" fail to notice his talents and give him the recognition he deserves.

Yes. Yes. And... YES.

I don't think it's a done deal yet, but I do believe the CW will make it happen whether Kripke is on board or not.

Oooo... I hadn't thought about that. About CW making it happen. Really, other than Smallville (ack!) what do they really have going for them?? When SPN goes... they've gotta scramble. Says me.

I don't want you to think that just because Supernatural ends, that you have to stop writing your SN fiction - now THAT would be a tragedy!

Umm. Well? See, I have this plan. And it includes three more stories promised. And then I'm going to concentrate on my original story, Gone.

But that's like... 6, 9 months away. Ish.

And honestly? I can't imagine not wanting to write SOMETHING involving these guys. At least once in awhile.

Oh, that reminds me. I will be contacting you about said original story with a request. At some point.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 24th, 2010 02:25 am (UTC)
Hi gaelic -its meggin
Hi gaelic
Thoughts of how the show is going to end, whether it will end will the boys be left intact to do a sixth season, and whether they will DO a sixth season have kept me behind the couch more nights than I care to admit (LOL)

If they go to a season six I see Jensen as being on board, Jared too for that matter.

Jensen has hinted at the con’s that even if the show didn’t get picked up he’d still be up for appearing at the Conventions. And with the down turn in the economy jobs are tight all over- he groused at one con that he can’t seem to find employment outside of Vancouver! Which told me he’s been looking. Most likely looking to find a gig back in the LA area so he can have a more normal home life. He said on more than one occasion he was jealous of the work schedules of his pals on Superman because they got to have more 9-5 hours. And if he had his druthers he do sit-coms because they work regular hours.

And working regular hours would allow him to have the home life he craves. He wants to settle down and have kids –god bless him- I bet he’ll make an awesome dad! And he had a good example of a working actor father in his dad. Jensen seems to value being a good provider over building prestigious career. And what I mean by that is I think he will take any acting job that has a guaranteed paycheck so that he can support his family over being picky about the types of roles he plays.

Don’t get me wrong, I admire the hell out of a man that takes his true role of husband and father as the real job it should be over fame and recognition any day of the week.

But because I am selfish when it comes to my addiction to that man’s face and body and voice and-well I could go on-ahem. What I wish is that he land a role directed by a Stephen Speilburg, or Rob Reiner or George Lucus or Ron Howard. And make a goddamned classic on par with The Wizard of Oz or the Princess Bride or Star Wars or To Kill a Mocking Bird. Something that would go down in the film annals, as one of the ones you have got to save in the vault and preserve for all mankind should the world be about to end! So that we would always have the beauty of his face to look upon and the marvelously funny and sad expressions he can make forever. But maybe that is just me.

Jared has made some statements that a younger, more idealistic actor would make of holding out for just the right movie. He’s stated that he wants to improve his craft. So I see him going the movie route more than I do Jensen.

I see Jensen returning to Soaps or trying for a sitcom, anything that would mean a steady paycheck and allow him to be there at home to watch his kids grow up.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 25th, 2010 03:14 am (UTC)
Re: Hi gaelic -its meggin
What I wish is that he land a role directed by a Stephen Speilburg, or Rob Reiner or George Lucus or Ron Howard. And make a goddamned classic on par with The Wizard of Oz or the Princess Bride or Star Wars or To Kill a Mocking Bird. Something that would go down in the film annals, as one of the ones you have got to save in the vault and preserve for all mankind should the world be about to end!

I love this! LOL! So, so true.

Though, I'm not sure I'd like him to return to Soaps because I've never and will never watch those. It's... painful. Literally painful. If he wanted to stick with TV rather than movies? I'd be all over it. :)

Just to see him...
alwaysateen
Jan. 24th, 2010 05:55 am (UTC)
I hope it's really Eric or someone close to him that supervise his Facebook page because here's one of his latest post: "Eric Kripke: three words: season six confirmed".

It would be awesome to come back for a normal season, like season one. Just the brothers chasing urban legends, no apocalyse, Hell or bad angels hanging over their heads.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 25th, 2010 03:15 am (UTC)
Well, there you go.

Guess that means we're all in the "Wait and See" boat, regardless of our concerns.

At least we'll get to see our boys for another year! :)
penfold_x
Jan. 24th, 2010 04:57 pm (UTC)
I'm torn, and hoping there won't be a sixth season. I like your idea of how it could go (especially finishing the apocalypse this year), but my experience with other shows that have run long (like Buffy, X-Files, etc) leads me to believe it's unlikely we would get good storytelling. Seriously, how many times do you think "Oh, let me pull the 6th season of X show off the shelf and watch again"? It's just not worth it to have new material, especially as that material often corrodes or overrides the characterization from earlier seasons (the seasons you loved the characters and the show).

When I think about how much more satisfying it would have been to end Buffy at S5... I hope Kripke gives serious thought to whether he really needs the money.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 25th, 2010 03:17 am (UTC)
When I think about how much more satisfying it would have been to end Buffy at S5... I hope Kripke gives serious thought to whether he really needs the money.

I wonder how much of it is really up to Kripke, though. Someone on here mentioned something about the CW keeping it going regardless. All I know is, if they do continue, it would not be SPN without Kripke, and OUR Sam and Dean.

I just had a horrible thought... what if... what if they have the boys say yes to Michael and Lucifer at the end of Season 5 and Season 6 is about (at least at the beginning) getting OUR boys back??

Oh, that just makes my stomach twist...

*be wrong be wrong be wrong*
sanderspleen
Jan. 24th, 2010 07:17 pm (UTC)
Keep the faith and trust in Kripke....
Okay girl, you asked for it. You brought me out of my hole with this post. You know what that means…a near-novel from the Spleen – ha ha! So here it goes:
I completely get everything you’re saying, questioning. The concern is warranted. I couldn’t help but continue to read the other comments that were made before I shared my thoughts. After reading them, it’s actually compelled me to respond on some of those.

First off, stemming off of your own provocative thoughts, I believe it’s merely fear that makes us all hesitant for a season 6, especially after reading so many other comments I’ve read in other posts as well as this one. The fear of the angst and emotional attachment we have for the boys dissolving as the show carries on. Our appreciation in a hurt!dean or hurt!sam fizzling out simply due to story lines not written as strong once the story of fighting the devil is over, or the opposite happening with the writers in season6 overplaying layered emotions to where we could become desensitized to the angst that has always gripped our emotions, that made us love the Winchester brothers in the first place or simply just the apocalypse story dragging out (which I truly don’t think Kripke would let happen). The same question asked over and over, how can they go from here if the Apocalypse ends in season 5? Fear allowing us to actually question Kripke. Question the writing leads of Sera Gamble and Ben Edlund…and Kripke himself who writes the season premiers and finales to each season....and I wish he’d write more episodes because he opens and ends each season with such a heart-wrenching bang.

Tara made some really good points in her response to all this, saying that Kripke promised this or that and has now gone back on his word, more than once, as we’re now being driven to a season6. However, I’m not convinced of the reasoning behind the loss of faith in the Kripmaster (no offense to Tara! And if Tara happens to read this, bare with me and I’ll explain! She’s obviously not the only one to have said she feel’s this way). With someone else commenting that “he’s done a lot of lying to the fans”, it saddens me to hear this and I think it’s a fairly harsh assessment for the decisions he’s made since season 3 ended. I don’t think he was lying when considering both cases of “promises he had made”. The 1st being that of not going past a 5th season and the 2nd being that he was not going to enter the realm of heaven and angels.

TRUE: Kripke made it clear several times that he wouldn’t go past a 5th season. MY POINT: He also didn’t think it would MAKE IT TO a 5th season. He deserves to feel extremely proud for creating a story and producing a show that became the “little engine that could”, the fandom it created. Regardless of its own network’s financial limitations and lack of belief in the show’s survival… until it actually WON a People’s Choice award this year, driving home the strength in the show that we fans have helped make known, helped in keeping alive, surviving on a network that no one believes in. Did he really have any idea that the formula initially created, and hiring Jensen and Jarred to play it out, would give such a compelling love for a family that hunted the supernatural? Heck no! Certainly, not to the degree that it has.

I think people are looking too hard to the past, holding him to statements made when each season was on pins and needles as to whether or not it even would make it to the next, being determined by a higher power than Kripke. A time when this show struggled to stay afloat due to lack of publicity and running on a weak, teen-driven network. Our stumbling blocks, even in season 4. Kripke’s initial disbelief that his little show would even make it to a 5th season is the reason he said he only had a 5 year arch in mind. Then, adding to that, Dawn O’s constant budget cuts to the show each year, making it worrisome for everyone as to its ultimate survival at the end of each season.
(Continued in Part 2)
sanderspleen
Jan. 24th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
Part 2
We need to give him some well deserved respect in that he had to be realistic with all these factors involved. He falls under the same insecurity, as most all of us do, in accounting the worse to happen so that we don’t find ourselves disappointed in our possible failures or find our butts out on the streets, homeless. You may have heard him, laughing about such disappointments as Boogeyman and Tarzan? He just happens to be one of the brave who is willing to take the risks necessary to work toward being successful, although, with caution.

Honestly, I think its Kripke’s own personal grown faith and trust in his beloved show and the loyalty of this fandom that’s allowed him to go beyond what he initially thought it could do, to find enough confidence in it to decide to take us to the next level, if you will. And to believe that he, Jensen and Jarred and the writing team ARE capable to continue on to a 6th season, even after the possible end to our grand story arch in the 5th.

TRUE: Kripke has said the show was not intended to “go there” with a battle between heaven and hell and perhaps there are still those who would have rather it didn’t. MY OPINION: It HAD to go there. The story grew too big and strong for it not too, yes? Otherwise, we’d be asking him to stunt the growth of the show, to keep it where we feel “safe” in what we KNOW works. But then, we’re not giving credit to Kripke’s abilities and vision. It’s unfair to hold him to something stated at a time when he was never given encouragement to its longevity. Not able to foresee it really surviving past even season 3, he was then presented with the fact that….the story had to go on. Little did he consider back then, just how inhibiting his statement of “never going there” would be for the growth of his now appreciated, successful show. Since then, the characters have grown stronger, more damaged, giving them even more depth, giving the viewer a better understanding as to WHY they’ve become who they are today, in order to withstand the battle they’re about to fight, along with all the battles in between….. and now possibly able to consider those battles yet to be fought after. Isn’t this continuous struggle and our need to see the brother’s relationship strengthen in the past 2 seasons a big part of why we all still tune in? So why would we then chastise Kripke for adding in this new level of the overall battle the boys have yet to finish fighting?

A lot of the show’s added strength is due to the level that Kripke and team chose to take the show to. BECAUSE they “went there”, bringing in this controversial epic. I mean, how long could we have withstood the angst behind searching for daddy or the demon that killed mom and Jess before we grew bored? My question to those fans not in agreement that stepping UP the storyline, bringing us to Dean in hell and then Lucifer’s escape (with angels in the mix), was necessary to keep the audience interested, then what SIDEstep would have been better or at least equal to what season 1 and 2 gave us that would not have made it redundant and anti-climactic? The only thing that keeps an audience enthralled….is to do bigger and better. Not the same thing over and over. But perhaps something altogether different might work (as so a season 6 now possibly makes an appearance)?
(Continued in part 3)
sanderspleen
Jan. 24th, 2010 07:22 pm (UTC)
Part 3
Often times, the opinions of some are given with a bite of cruelty in the form of harsh words toward a creator of anything remotely on the edge of controversy (and I’m certain we’ve all visited sites where we’ve seen it in our fandom), even when it may not have intended to be taken in such a way. I bet each person commenting on this post that has written fanfic can relate to the criticisms that seem unfair and harsh by some reviewer who misunderstood the writer’s intent in an added character, or a scene, or simply a statement that was written with complete innocence, no harm meant. I can only imagine that in the beginning, Kripke himself didn’t want to “go there” in adding heaven/angels into the storyline because of his own fear of not being able to pull it off without such contempt from fans who held strong religious beliefs. In a sense, thinking he’s showing respect for those fans by keeping any delicate religious controversy out – and perhaps feared that if not done right, would simply come out looking ridiculous, I’m sure. But even since season1, he has said that no matter how hard he tried to prevent the possibility of said contempt, there is always SOMEONE he doesn’t please. Someone who finds reason to complain. Someone who finds reason to point a finger of discrimination. Someone who decides that the show doesn’t follow THEIR belief system, not showing that “other side” in the way THEY were brought up to believe how the bible is interpreted, blogging their scorned opinion.

I still believe that Kripke is a smart, brilliant man, who built a story based on his own view of family and sacrifice. That hasn’t changed. I think he’s showing confidence that the show AND THE FANS are able to survive that “next level” – going out still on top, even in a 6th season with the apocalypse ending in the 5th (speculating that they don’t actually drag the apocalypse into a 6th season). He’s already gone beyond what he had ever dreamed possible! So why shouldn’t he trust himself and his writers MORE and show the FAITH HE HAS in Jensen and Jarred’s abilities and their creation of these characters we love so much and bring in the realm of the “good side” to this story? Bringing angels into the picture. Giving balance. Giving Dean a REASON TO FIGHT. Finally PROOF for his sake that there is another side to believe in! To help Dean FIND FAITH! Are you kidding me? THAT’S JUST FRIGGIN’ AMAZING!!! I mean, think about it, have we EVER seen another show that could do this? That did it well and SUCCEEDED???? No way. But Supernatural did it….is still doing it. Obviously with some disgruntled resistance by some fans, but he hasn’t been doing it wrong….and it’s in THIS season they win a People’s Choice award? I find that completely hilarious! Irony to the dissolving faith I’m hearing from some comments and other posts.

So tell me then, why are people losing faith in Kripke NOW? Stating that they don’t TRUST him? Why? Because he brought in controversy to a universe that held DEMONS in it and we’re holding him to statements made when he had no idea just how incredibly huge this fandom would grow to? And, why are those fans who became comfortable with a show that gave us hell-delivered-demons in it, are suddenly distraught and broken up about a show having angels added in to FIGHT the demons? Really? I mean, Come on! Really?

Interestingly enough, it’s that controversial season 4 that brought in more viewers who started climbing aboard the ride of our favorite show….and discovering WHY those of us who’ve loved it from the beginning stand firm in our faith and belief in the show, yet it’s the same season that loyal fans mumble and grumble about because “Kripke said he wouldn’t go there”. And so their trust in him is deteriorating?
(Continued in part 4 - Good grief!)
sanderspleen
Jan. 24th, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
Part 4 - fin
(Part 4)
But from my perspective, I feel that his change of heart from previously made statements was necessary. This new founded level Kripke and team determined our story needed to go to, believing our little engine that could is strong enough to sustain the criticisms, having faith that the fans will stay on the ride until the end, will eventually show us the reasoning behind why he “went back on his word”. We loyal and faithful fans need to have that same kind of conviction. I admit I wasn’t sure at first as to how I felt about angels coming aboard and I’m nervous how they’re going to bring in God himself. THAT would be challenging because if done wrong…..the whole added angels aspect would have been all in vain, really. And they did the angel bit VERY WELL! For those that don’t agree, maybe they don’t see the purpose? Or understand the significance in order to allow everyone to feel a sense of closure when all is said and done?

Need I continue on as to why we should keep our faith AND trust in Kripke?

One thing’s for certain; at the end of each season, Kripke and team deliver a story that is never forgotten. Regardless of everyone’s fears just before the beginning of each season that seems to temporarily preempt their faith in Kripke, due to newly dreaded additions said to join the show, such as angels. The initial moans and groans of fans with predicted disappointment, fading out by each season’s ending. Replaced with renewed faith and overall love for the man, the show and the actors that brought these boys to life in the first place.

I believe in Kripke. The man can bring on an apocalypse on a teen-driven network with a Wal-Mart budget, SUCCESSFULLY! I mean, it won a People's Choice award in the middle of the battle! Its own networks lack of faith be damned!

Keep the faith all you “loyal” fans out there. Trust in Kripke. He hasn’t really let us down in the way you see it. He hasn’t “lied”. His vision merely has grown with a show that exceeded even HIS expectations of survival. We should be giving him a standing ovation for it, rather than delivering words of contempt.

Okay.....I'm done. =0)
gaelicspirit
Jan. 24th, 2010 10:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Part 4 - fin
Well, my friend, that was certainly a very impassioned, rousing call. :) I thank you for pointing out all the things that made Kripke one of the heroes in the Winchester universe.

I don't know that fans--those who read and/or reply on this thread in any case--disagree with you. I think the disatisfaction with things Kripke has said compared with what has ended up happening circles back to that fear you pointed out in the first section.

I think that even those who are uncertain about a continuation of our beloved show are loyal fans; it's not really a question of that. It's more a question of feeling protective. We all LOVE this show. Like... LOVE it. And the thought of even the possibility of it becoming less than it is... well, it's worrisome.

That's all.

I totally hear you, though. There is not a single season or plot device or evolution that has been disappointing. I, personally, didn't realize that there was such a controversy around adding angels (remember me = living under a rock). As I stated in my post, the development from "saving people/hunting things" to the apocolypse was inevitable and I've enjoyed every minute.

While, as deangirl1 pointed out, there are thousands of fanfic stories on the net, what we don't know is what sort of story/track Kripke is going to take. And I think -- like in about every other area of life -- it's that unknown that we fear.

I still hold a bit of reservation about Season 6. It's the first time I've not be overjoyed to have more of such an amazingly good thing. Perhaps it's just that I'm weary. I don't know. And I still hope -- hope beyond measure -- that they end this season with a defeat of Lucifer and an end to the apocolypse. I am more excited about a 6th Season storyline outside of the apocolypse.

NOT, I stress, because I haven't enjoyed it. It more goes back to that weariness. I don't know how much more I can take because I sometimes feel as though I physically go through the same journey as our heroes when I watch. My heart hurts for them and I want this journey to have an end. And go from there.

I suppose that no matter what we speculate upon, angst about, ponder, or discuss, all of us are left with the same end result: we wait and see.

And as has been stated before (above), I don't know how to think about life after SPN. This show has changed my life and I'm glad of that.

Thanks for coming out of your hole. Passion such as yours is to be admired.
Re: Part 4 - fin - sanderspleen - Jan. 25th, 2010 08:52 am (UTC) - Expand
(Anonymous)
Jan. 25th, 2010 12:54 am (UTC)
Season Six???
Hey Gaelic

You know how much I love the show and the boys... but, I think a sixth season is not a good idea. Once you get the apocolypse, heaven vs hell, where can you go from there? This has been a great five seasons, but they should know to end when they are on top. Think of all the great shows that were ruined because they went on for too long - X-Files, Angel, 24 etc (speaking of 24, what has happened to Keifer Sutherlands face??!!!). They kept going and got tired, running out of fresh ideas.

I'm good with five seasons, with a proper ending.. nothing open, I want everything solved and explained! Then, as you say, the actors can go on to other projects and broaden their horizons. And, I'm with you on Jensen in a Western - hot guys riding horses, cant get much better than that!! ..... Um, weren't you going to do a story along those lines???!!

Take care,
Stella
gaelicspirit
Jan. 25th, 2010 02:00 am (UTC)
Re: Season Six???
Think of all the great shows that were ruined because they went on for too long - X-Files, Angel, 24 etc (speaking of 24, what has happened to Keifer Sutherlands face??!!!). They kept going and got tired, running out of fresh ideas...

Yeah, this is what concerns me most. But as my friend sanderspleen pointed out, having faith in Kripke isn't a bad thing. We could very well be nicely surprised.

And, I'm with you on Jensen in a Western - hot guys riding horses, cant get much better than that!! ..... Um, weren't you going to do a story along those lines???!!

Yeah, I am. :) It's fulfilling both a promise to my former beta and a fantasy of my own. :)

It'll be a bit yet before it starts posting, though.
jesters_tear82
Jan. 25th, 2010 02:30 pm (UTC)
couldn't agree with you more
When I read that a season 6 had been approved (but
now it's not certain again) I actually cried out a loud:
"NOOOOOO WHY !?"
Not because I'm tired of the show - I only started watching mid
2008 so not enough at all - but wanting it to end well, with a BANG,
not tired and long dead like so many other shows that should have gotten
the axe years ago. Kripke himself always said he would never "Jump The Shark"
and topping the apocalypse? sounds impossible.
So if season 6 will be like you've described it, I'm all for it,
maybe even see the boys try to stay in one place for more then one
week? a relationship for Dean that would last more than 2 months?
(that really bothered me with last eppy, wasn't he with Cassie longer? me wonders.)
Would love to see them come to terms with everything that has happened
to them over the past 5 years, and explore their inner wishes and hopes,
but the end of the world - needs to end with this season. your ideas for Cas -
wonderful! but do you really want to see Bobby get ganked? it would make for
deep emotional moments but I'll miss him dearly.
Whatever happens though, I'll be watching.

Thank you for sharing with us! so happy the boys are back &
your rambles add to my joy!!
catch you next time :))

p.s. didn't QL go on for 5 years? such a strong show. and does Al not remind you of
someone we love dearly? **wink wink** imagine SN lasting 20 more seasons,
Dean at 50 years old, still chasing girls around, hehe.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 27th, 2010 09:31 pm (UTC)
Re: couldn't agree with you more
Hey there! I'm sorry it's taken me a bit to reply to you -- work grabbed me by my ankles this week... *swims to the surface*

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! I'm with you in wanting it to end with a BANG -- but y'know, even with all my "I'm not so sure about a season 6" talk, I will be so, SO sad when this show is over over. :(

but do you really want to see Bobby get ganked? it would make for
deep emotional moments but I'll miss him dearly.


Well, no, I don't WANT them to kill Bobby. He's one of my favorite characters outside of the boys. Probably the favorite. I'm just saying that I don't trust the writers NOT to kill him -- because if they did, it would make for "good" angst in a 6th Season. I hope I'm wrong. I really REALLY do.

didn't QL go on for 5 years? such a strong show. and does Al not remind you of someone we love dearly

I had to look it up. It ran from 1989 - 1993. Five seasons. And I can't think of a single episode I wouldn't re-watch. And you're right -- Al does remind me of a loveable scoundrel close to my heart. But Al also had his demons and it gave that skirt chasing, cigar-smoking rascal real depth. Whenever they brought up his first wife, Beth, and the loss of her being the reason none of the other marriages worked out -- or the fact that he learned what Hell really was in a Vietnam POW camp... my heart just ached for him.

*sniff*

How we love our broken heroes.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 26th, 2010 02:11 pm (UTC)
Ooooh what a tangled web we weave....
I do love your mind though...how does one add to what you so eloquently put down already? I'm on board for almost any and every thing they want those boys to do. Okay, so I'm old, horny, and want to live through, with, in (ewww, that sounds bad) those gorgeous hunk o men, but I (like you) also trust Kripke to keep it real and not, just for the sake of another season, give us....stuff, or fluff, or whatever seems to happen to shows that run out of wind. That just simply can't and won't happen with someone like the K-man at the helm. I also, would like to see the apocolypse go bye bye, if not just to assure myself that there is still a chance that "I" won't be going south instead of north :) So, I have nothing to add to what you have already said, and hope that while our boys may be tired - they just need to suck it up for one more season for us horny old ladies. :) Go boys go!!!!
gaelicspirit
Jan. 27th, 2010 09:32 pm (UTC)
Re: Ooooh what a tangled web we weave....
Ah, my friend. No name, but the grin is all yours.

And yeah, as long as Kripke is calling the shots, I think things would be 'okay'... I just... worry. But if there's anything I'm good at, it's worrying. :)

BGBSBY
(Anonymous)
Jan. 29th, 2010 04:31 pm (UTC)
Hey Gaelic,

Hope nothing serious is going on, cause you know, when your rambling doesn't come, I start to worry ;)

After last night's eps I'm starting to think that Kripke is going to make the apocalypse last till season 6, cause there are just so many stand alones! I wish this season would end with them vanquishing Lucifer, but I guess maybe it will just end with the moment where Sam supposedely said YES and leave us with a major cliff hanger (?) for summer hellatus :s

Also, I LOVED your reply to my comment on ff,net, I just don't know how to answer it, since the email is the "do not reply" type...

Hugs,
Clarice
gaelicspirit
Jan. 29th, 2010 05:27 pm (UTC)
I'm okay -- ramble is on its way. Explanation for lateness contained within. :)

You can always PM me here or on ff.net -- that goes right to my email.

Take care of you!

Gaelic
(Anonymous)
Jan. 29th, 2010 05:35 pm (UTC)
Ok, I realize that this comment is REALLY late (RL has been rather demanding lately) and I haven't really had time to think through all the ramifications of the possibility of a season 6 or read everyone's comments, but just throwing this out...what if they (Sam and Dean) don't win? Has anybody consider that they DON'T stop the apocalypse? What if Lucifer wins? I mean, they did have the ep where Dean travels to a future where Sam says yes. I know I'm on the verge of SPN blasphemy right here, but if Kripke follows mythology like he normally does (I'm not saying the Bible's a myth), but Satan does rule for a while on earth before God steps in. I don't quite know where I'm exactly going with this, but maybe it doesn't end happily ever after (like it ever does with our boys), with the bad guys put away. All I'm saying is that the apocalypse is only the BEGINNING, according to Revelation. Things are going to get a LOT worse.

Just thinking out loud here.
tuya_moon
Jan. 29th, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
Ok, so I am so not having a very good tech morning. I don't know if you got my comment about the apocaplyse not ending and all that. (I can't find the comment now and I think I forgot to sign in when i left it) But oh, well. It really wasn't all that important. but just to let you know it's me, not some random person.
gaelicspirit
Jan. 29th, 2010 07:00 pm (UTC)
Hey there -- you couldn't see it because my LJ screens non-flist comments. I'm not sure how to get it to stop doing that. So I just have to go in and un-screen it so that everyone can see it.

So, yeah, I did get it. :) And so that you are sure to see my reply, I'll reply to both here.

The thought that they wouldn't win did occur to me, but I dismissed it. I could see him going that route at the end of this season in order to extend the whole apocolypse storyline into another season, and I really hope he doesn't.

I think the whole purpose of SPN is to show us that good triumphs over evil. And if he ended the whole she-bang with evil winning, everything he did up to that point would have been for not. Creativity can only take you so far -- at some point, when you've gathered this much momentum and this many fans, you have a responsibility to them to offer hope. Says me.

So, while in the Bible Lucifer rules for awhile before God steps in, I'm hoping that Kripke managers to set that a bit on its ear and call it quits with the struggle between Heaven and Hell by the end of this season. Or at the VERY least, the beginning of next.

Otherwise...it's just too much. For me.
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