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Stream of Consciousness, 5.16

This season hurts. I love it, but it hurts. Remember all that talk about thinking this should be the last season? I was full of it. I’m not ready for them to be gone. Not until they’re whole again.


I was fully smitten in Season 1. I fell in love in Season 2. By Season 3, they owned me. Season 4 I watched them break against each other, like tumbling rocks caught in an avalanche: basically together, but struggling until they shattered and ended up in the same rubble pile. Now, they’re being stacked, both dependant not only upon each other, but upon outside elements to keep upright. And they’re tipping.

I want them whole again. I want to walk away from an episode grinning because they rocked it so hard. Tonight, though, I can’t quit rubbing my heart.

In Season 4, the wearing and tearing between the brothers was somehow easier for me to accept because it was Sam falling away, losing unity, losing faith. Dean stayed strong—he faltered now and then, but all it took was a swift kick from Bobby, or his own sense of guilt and he was back. But this time around, it’s Dean that is crumbling under the crushing weight and the fact that he’s losing faith in everything—not just God or himself but also his brother…his family—is so very painful to watch.

I have to say this before I get into the ramble: I think Dean’s going to say yes, but I think it’s going to be too late. This isn’t to be read as a spoiler, because I haven’t read ahead or seen anything beyond tonight’s previews; it’s just me voicing my concern because it’s like acid in my heart when it comes to this show. I think his 2014 self was right. He’s going to find that he can’t see a way out, he doesn’t believe Sam when he says they’ll find a way, and whether or not Sam ends up in Detroit won’t matter because Dean will be soul-weary from being chased and from fighting and not knowing why he’s resisting anymore. He doesn’t even really have God on his side, or so he believes.

So he’s going to say yes because his ground is and always has been to protect others—Sam especially. And if he says yes, he’ll think he can save Sam. Make this one final sacrifice. And Michael can defeat Lucifer while he’s in an ‘inferior’ meatsuit. And the angel’s are not going to want him. And I don’t know what will happen next. And I don’t know what to do with that because he’s my hero. What do you do when your hero gives up? They better write him out of this. They better save him—or show him the way to save himself. I’m not sure exactly what I’ll do if they don’t, but…well, they just better.

I know we have six episodes left after this one, but crimeny. What an emotional journey it’s been, ya’ll. Following Dean through loss, Hell, forgiveness, desperation… Following Sam through addiction, devotion, humility, resolution… what they both need now is a shot of hope. Straight up. No chaser.

When they showed us the THEN and the number of times the guys have died, I wasn’t worried about what we were going to see tonight. I wrote a one-shot/zine story awhile back that was a missing tag to Mystery Spot called “No Dominion” from the Dylan Thomas poem:

They shall have stars at elbow and foot;
Though they go mad they shall be sane,
Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again
Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.

I think that the guys need death to have dominion. They need an end of the line. They need to be truly human again. They need to know that it can and will be taken away—for good, from both of them—without hope of return so that each moment can matter to them. Because they’re not living right now. They might be alive, but they’re not living. They’re simply soldiers fighting a war with no front for a general that went AWOL and it’s become impossible to tell the enemy from the friendlies.

Showing us the amulet—and flashing back to the moment Sam gave it to Dean—set the stage for what was the most heartbreaking scene of the whole episode. For me at least.

*takes deep breath*

Okay, so if you haven’t run off, I’ll get into the actual episode. Sorry for waxing emotional there. I’m just spun a bit. And before those of you who are more grounded than I am on a regular basis remind me that it’s simply a TV show…I know. I know it is. But it doesn’t matter. It still spins me right round, baby, right round.

Somehow, two hunters—who by their own admission aren’t the caliber of hunter that Dean is—gain access to the boys’ motel room while they’re sleeping. Dean wakes to see that Hunter #1 has managed to get his gun from beneath his pillow. Aside—gun, huh? I still pictured him with the Bowie. I still write him with the Bowie. Good thing I usually stick to writing fic in Seasons 1, 2, or 3. Anyway, Hunter #1 has Dean’s gun, Sam is awake and sitting up.

Dean’s expression and tone goes from cocky to concerned in a heartbeat when Hunter #2 (I know Dean identified them, but it was so quick that the names went right out of my head…but for some reason I keep thinking Disney…*shrug*) cocks the slide action shotgun. Right at Sam. Sam’s flinch made me flinch. His pleading, young-looking eyes had me biting my lip. Sam was scared. Dean? Looked pissed.

Hunter #2 asks Sam if he thinks he could pull the trigger on the apocalypse and get away with it. Sam looks surprised and kinda hurt wants to know who told them that. Uh…didn’t Sam tell them basically? I mean, when he told those three other hunters back in that bar/restaurant he was working during Free To Be You And Me…he kinda told the whole hunting community, didn’t he?

Sam is the first to be shot. And even though I knew it was coming, I jumped a mile. It didn’t hold the punch that AHBL 1 did—the ohmygodthiscan’tbehappening punch. It wasn’t even the punch of Sam’s surprise demise in SRTS. It was like jumping when a balloon is popped even though you’d been watching the needle approach the latex for the last minute.

Sam is blasted back against the bed, his chest a bloody mess, dead. Dean jerks in instinctive reaction and stares at his dead brother. He doesn’t move. He barely breathes. And his face…Good Lord, his expression shifts like ripples on a pond from shock to horror to disbelief to pain to anger to out-right fury. It was amazing. I think I forgot to breathe for a moment.

Hunter #1 is hesitant to shoot Dean—he could justify Sam since he started the apocalypse and all, but Dean… Hunter #2 astutely points out that Dean’s seen them, they just killed his brother and he does not want to live the rest of his life knowing that Dean Winchester was on his ass.

Okay, it’s probably totally inappropriate, but my gut was yelling a big, “You know that’s right!” It’s ‘cause our guy is a Big Damn Hero, ya’ll. And his rep is earned.

Dean tears his eyes away from his dead brother and looks right at Hunter #1, challenging him with this look of cold fury. “Do it…but when I come back, I’m gonna be pissed.”

NICE! That? Was a kick-ass line. ‘Cause Dean knows they won’t stay dead—the angels and demons vying for their will and their bodies won’t allow it. And no way does he want to stay fighting in a world where Sam is dead. So, yeah. Bring it on.

And they do—KA-BLAM!

And as the next scene began, I laughed out loud. Somewhere—either reading this now or watching a download—my friend lovinjackson  is whooping. *grins at Tara* Bob Dylan’s “Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door” is playing on the radio in the Impala and Dean appears to be asleep behind the wheel. He wakes, gets out, and sees young Sam getting a box of bottle rockets out of the back of the Impala. At first Dean thinks it’s a very weird dream, and then he just goes with it.

It’s a memory, he soon realizes, of July 4, 1996, when he and Sam went to some field and set off fireworks in secret because John wouldn’t let them. He has his old Zippo lighter that he hadn’t seen in years—I think it’s the one they tossed in after old Mordecai Murdock in Hell House, Season 1. In ’96, Sam would have been 12/13, Dean 16/17. And for a few moments, Dean looked 16 as he watched Sam dance in the light of the fireworks, Bob Dylan playing in the background. The lines on his face smoothed and he looked…lighter. Free. Happy, even. Hanging out with his little brother.

But in the flash of the fireworks, he remembers their murder and young Sam is gone. Next thing you know, he can hear Cas’ voice on the radio and he realizes that this isn’t a dream. He’s actually dead.

Cas: Condolences.


He gets back into the car—talking to Cas through the radio—and in a voice so full of disbelief and wonder it breaks your heart, he says, “How’d I get to Heaven?” OH, Dean. If you weren’t one of the good guys, you wouldn’t be in this mess. And an Archangel wouldn’t be after you. Everything you’ve done has been for the greater good. And the only way you’re going to make it out of this is if you start to believe that even the tiniest little bit. His next question, though, is why I fell for him in the first place.

“If I’m in Heaven…where’s Sam?”

‘Cause Heaven without his family—without his brother—ain’t Heaven, folks.

I have some thoughts on Heaven, but I’m going to save them until a bit later. But I just want to say that I think they did a fantastic job with it. Deciding to “go there” with the storyline was a risky move—but I think they pretty much tossed their storyline safeguards out the window when they brought angels into the mix. Demons, devils, creatures of the night, the majority of humanity is fine with that. We like seeing regular Joe’s kick demon ass and stand up for all that is good, noble and pure in the world.

But when you add the other side into the mix—and not only that, but make them not exactly pure of heart and noble of spirit—you get people’s Irish up, so to speak. Plus…we’ve already seen a glimpse of Dean’s Hell. It’s only fair that we see Heaven, right? And I LOVE how they played it off. The cosmos-sky effect while Dean was driving down the road was wicked cool. It was all the best parts of a Planetarium. *grin*

Anyway, Cas asked Dean what he saw—a tunnel, a river…for Dean, it’s a road. Of course. He follows the road in search of Sam and comes to a house. In the house, Sam sits at a dinner table with a family eating Thanksgiving dinner. At first, he thinks Dean’s in his dream, but when Dean pulls him away from the family—who, oddly, go on talking to his empty chair as if he’s still sitting there—and tells him they’re in Heaven, Sam’s reaction surprises me.

Sam: “How are we in Heaven?”

Dean: “Lot of clean living, I guess.”

Sam: “You, I get. But me?”

Oh, Sammy. *rubs heart* I didn’t see that coming and I should have. I really should have because as wrapped up as I am in Dean, Sam has been through so much of his own Hell and heartache and disappointment and uncertainty. And as much as Dean doesn’t feel he’s worth it because he just…doesn’t…Sam has gone all this time carrying the guilt of his actions and fighting to do the right thing not for the reward, but for the penance.

I just want someone to take hold of them both and say, “You did good here.” And I want them to believe it.

Sam comes up with the whole “life flashes before your eyes” theory—because they both ended up in memories when they got there. Good memories. Sam’s first “real” (as he saw it) Thanksgiving with this normal family and Dean with his little brother. You saw where this was going, too, right? Made me want to cry.

There’s a sudden…rumbling and shaking and the boys finish each other’s sentences by ducking and covering as a bright white light speeds past. This had me thinking…angels…true form…true voice… Ideally, they should be able to hear and see an angel’s true form in Heaven, right? I mean, why would an angel need a vessel in Heaven? But then…how is a TV show with a limited budget going to depict an angel’s true form. And what about us mortals? How are we going to understand them? Subtitles? *smirk* So, it worked for me.

Dean tries to get Cas through the radio in the house—which makes Sam think he’s lost his mind—but Cas shows up on the TV set. Looking like our Cas, because he can’t come back to Heaven, after all. He tells the boys to not go into the light.

Dean: “Thanks, Carol Anne.”

*BWAH!!* Okay, that was just funny.

Apparently, the light is Zachariah who knows they can’t say yes to Michael and Lucifer if they’re dead. To which Sam immediately replies, “Great! Problem solved!” *sad*

Not so much because Zach’s not going to let this slide. He’s going to find them. So Cas tells them they have to follow the Axis Something (didn’t catch it) which leads to the Garden and in the Garden, they’ll find Joshua who talks to God.

Cas: “You think we should find out what the hell God’s been saying?”

Dean: “Touchy!”

Gaelic: Castiel just cussed!! *laugh*

Sam’s surprised that Dean wants to ‘follow the yellow brick road’…which, if you think about it, is not really a surprise. Dean’s pleas to a higher power for help—at the pop machine and then in the junkyard—were done in secret. Sam never saw or heard and all he has seen or heard is Dean saying that he’s not sure God really even exists. So when Dean says that they’re “royally boned” and the prayer is the “last hope of a desperate man,” we know where he’s coming from, but the surprise on Sam’s face is understandable.

They go outside to see that they’re now surrounded by forest, so they go back inside and Dean starts opening closet doors, looking for a road. “We’re in Heaven…finding a road in a closet would be the most normal thing to happen to us today.”

Sure enough, inside one closet is a Hot Wheels race track with a blue #43 car that Dean used to have when he was a kid. He puts the car around the track and suddenly they’re in a different room, in different clothes…and apparently, Dean ‘wuvs hugs’ according to his teddy bear shirt.

Dean: “Shut up.”


I figured out where they were like two blinks before Dean said it and I think I gasped a bit. When Mary walks in and asks Dean if he’s hungry, the heartache on the boys faces had me sagging into my couch. They were home.

Sam stands off to the side watching while Dean eats a PB&J with the crusts cut off. Mary can’t hear Sam because it’s Dean’s memory—another one with family. Understandably hurt by this and therefore anxious to get going, Sam says they need to find the road, but Dean asks for just one more minute. He needs another minute with his mom. The phone rings and Dean says he remembers this: John and Mary were fighting and John moved out for a few days. Sam is surprised; John always said they had the perfect marriage.

Dean: “It wasn’t perfect until after she died.”

Plus, while not every fight ends in one of the spouses moving out for a few days, no marriage is perfect. Anyone who says differently is lying to you or themselves. People are hard to live with day in and day out. Constant companionship in a world of change is a daily choice. And no matter how desperately you love someone and how much they can light you up at just the right times, you still need time away from them to breathe inside your own space, be comfortable with your own thoughts.

And I can imagine that Angel brain wipe or no Angel brain wipe, these two had plenty of baggage. Mary was an orphan—and who knows how much of her past the angels actually erased—and John was a Marine who’d been to war. Not only that? A four year old and a newborn? Enough said.

When Mary hangs up with John and Sam asks what happens next, Dean gets up and proceeds to smush what’s left of my heart.

Dean (arms wrapped around his mom): “It’s okay, Mom. Dad still loves you. I love you, too. I’ll never leave you.”

 It’s the perfect four-year-old words. It’s how my Mo Chuisle talks to me sometimes. It’s the intuitive child instinctively seeking to comfort. *cries*

Mary touches his face and calls him her little angel, then brightly asks if he wants some pie. So she’s to blame! LOL!

Sam is looking at Dean with this expression of old pain and latent understanding. “I never realized how long you’ve been cleaning up Dad’s messes.”

OH, Sammy. *mentally hugs him tightly for that* Dean just darts his eyes to the side, having no words in reply. Ooofffda.

One time, about two years ago, I got a random phone call from one of my sisters. It wasn’t the one I raised—it was the one closest in age to me. I wasn’t home and she left me a message, and I’m convinced that if I’d picked up she wouldn’t have told me this. She said she’d been watching TV with her little boy and saw a mother reading to her child and had a flash of me doing that with them—me, not our mom. I must have played her message a thousand times. She said, “I never really thought about you not being a kid. You were always just you—just there to pick up after us. And I never really thought about what that meant you weren’t doing. I want you to know that I think about it now. And I wanted to say thank you.”

I didn’t know how to react to that. Still don’t, really. It’s one thing to point out to your parents what they made you do throughout your childhood. It’s something else entirely for your siblings to recognize it. If I could have seen my face, it probably looked a lot like Dean’s in that moment.

To cover up, Dean says they should keep moving. They search until Sam finds a Route 66 postcard and says he’s seen it before and suddenly they’re in what looks like a trailer with post cards on the wall and a golden retriever bouncing happily toward them.

Delighted, a total little-boy grin on his face, Sam calls out happily, “Bones!”

Okay, aside? Jared + dogs = love. He was freakin’ adorable with that mutt. *grin* But Dean…he’s looking around and realizing that they’re in Flagstaff. He is amazed that this is a happy memory for Sam.

Sam’s like, why not? I had my own space, my dog…I was living off pizza and Funions…it was great!

Dean drops the bomb: Sam had run away on Dean’s watch. For two weeks. Dean looked everywhere for him, thought he was dead. And when Dad came home…

*is gutted*

Sam has the grace to look chagrined and says he didn’t think about it that way. And why would he? He was a kid and had been purposely kept a kid as much as Dean could manage it. I don’t mean to say that just because he was the younger he had no pain growing up. I know he did. But…until you’ve had the responsibility of another person—the literal responsibility of them including safety, care, feeding—you don’t know what kind of a weight that is. And how you’re never without it. You’re never really free of it. You’re really only happy if you know they’re okay, if they’re happy.

There’s no way Sam could have thought about it that way because he’d never been made to. And I think it’s wrong to just assume that he should have out of care for his brother. Why? It’s not instinctive. It’s learned.

Gruffly, stinging from a growing realization of their different happy memories, Dean grumbles, “Forget it. Let’s roll.”

And they’re on another road. In front of a run-down house. Sam immediately covers that he doesn’t know what memory it is and wants to keep going, but Dean connects the dots. It’s the night Sam “ditched them for Stanford.” Again, Dean is incredulous that this is a happy memory for Sam. Sam says he can’t control the memories…but I wonder if someone can.

I wonder exactly how much power the angels have in Heaven. I wonder how much of this just happened and how much was designed. Maybe even including their murders. If it was by design, then it would make a little more sense to me how a seasoned hunter like Dean could get jumped in a motel room—his under-the-pillow-gun taken away from him—and that the memories Sam jumped through were seemingly designed to break Dean down, hollow him out, leave him hopeless.

Sam: “I finally got away from Dad…”

Dean: “He wasn’t the only one you got away from… I know, you didn’t think of it like that.”

I could actually almost see both sides. Dean’s hurt because Sam’s idea of ‘family’ means someone else’s life. Sam points out that he never got the crusts cut off his bread. Yeah, they both approach it from different angles and Sam’s angle is hurtful to Dean and Dean’s angle doesn’t make sense to Sam. But…they’re family.

Dean: “I’m your family, Sam! It’s supposed to be you and me against the world, right?”

Sam: “It is!”

Dean: “Is it?”

Gaelic: Oh…nononononono…

Don’t do this boys. Don’t fall apart on us now. When you struggled so much last season, survived so much and one moment—hands reaching out to grip each other’s coats as Hell opened up beneath you—brought us all back together. Don’t let go.

…I think they’re going to let go before the Season’s over. I just hope they reach out again before they leave us for the summer. *sniff*

*ahem* Sorry. Where was I? Oh, right. There’s a bright light—almost looks like a search light from a helicopter—and they’re running and hiding and running…from Zach who taunts them and teases them and says they’re on his turf now and makes me just want to poke him in the eye with a sharp, flaming stick. More running through woods, some in-unison neck craning and ducking down behind a log (cute, that) and hiding and then…from out of nowhere…

Nacho Libre’s little brother shows up.

He motions them to follow, which they do, and then he marks some angel symbols on a door and takes them inside…the Roadhouse. It’s Ash! And I laughed out loud. I was so happy to see this guy it was incredible. I miss them having allies like this! Fun, quirky, random characters that are just people. Not prophets or psychics or angels. Just people.

Ash: “Bud, blood, and beer nuts. Best smell in the world.”

Also? There’s apparently no hangover in Heaven. SCORE! Okay, so Ash is our late-to-the-party Heaven tour guide. And this is where I have to give the writers props. Because I could get on board with this. I mean, who’s going to say they’re wrong? Seriously. I grew up being taught that Hell is essentially separation from God forever and Heaven is His home. There are descriptions in the Bible of power and light and flaming robes…but it’s also supposed to be our reward and our peace and the place our souls can rest.

I’ve tried to picture Heaven a million times. I’ve doubted its existence—not God’s, but that there’s a place or a location we go to. I won’t be in this body, so would I really care about the things this body enjoys? Is it more just a sensation or a feeling? I don’t know. But what I do know, is that this explanation? That there are 100 billion Heavens? Winchesterland and Ashland and Everybodyelseland where it’s what you truly enjoy forever with the Garden at the center? It made sense to me.

I liked how Ash casually threw out there that soul mates share a Heaven and the brothers exchanged a glance. I thought that telling since they found each other. But I also wondered about that, too, because Sam’s happy memories were so different from Dean’s…

Ash cracked me up talking about finding and meeting Johnny Cash and Andre the Giant (okay, random!) and then telling Sam (adorable!) that Einstein made a mean White Russian. His description of Mallanāga Vātsyāyana’s Heaven being sweaty and confusing was just. So. Ash. I missed him! Oh! And true to form, he’s rigged up a scanner that tracks Enochian language (which, of course, he’s fluent in). That’s how he found out they were here. Again.

Which surprised the boys (and me, admittedly).

Ash: “You boys die more than anyone else I know.” But apparently the angels (or God?) don’t let them remember. Sam asks if he’s found anyone else—like Ellen and Jo. Ash didn’t know they were dead and it hits him hard. Which I found so interesting. He’s here, in his “blue Heaven,” happy as a clam, and yet he feels sadness and loss at finding out that Jo and Ellen were dead. That’s just…fascinating to me.

Ash has looked all over for John and Mary and can’t find them. Which brings me back to this whole orchestrated thought. Not that Ash was fake or lying, but that the reach of the angel’s control over manipulating the lives of these two guys might go so far as to hide their parents from them in Heaven. Heavy.

Ash says that there is someone they’ll want to see, though, and brings out Pamela. I had mixed emotions about seeing her. At first I didn’t really care one way or another. I didn’t think her character added much to the mix except to bring us a snappy, tough female, reveal Cas and expose Sam to his own truth and she didn’t really feel like some…old friend or something, like Ash. But, here she was.

Sam hunkers down with Ash and his toy while Dean and Pam have a drink. She whacks him on the head and said that was for getting her killed.

Dean: “If it makes you feel any better, we got Ash killed, too.”

Ash: “I’m cool with it!”

Dean: “He’s cool with it.”

Gaelic: *BWAH!* I missed Ash! Did I say that yet? I did? Well, it bears repeating. I missed that mullet-wearing, pool-table-sleeping, genius. I wish, though, they would have asked him what it was he’d wanted to tell Dean before he was killed. Even if it doesn’t matter anymore, I was curious what he knew.

ANYWAY, Pam starts doing the time-share sales pitch of Heaven to Dean. She’s really good here. Her Heaven is one long show at the Meadowlands. Dean finds that hinky. He thinks being in your own little world with the angels running the show is more like…The Matrix. Which is very interesting. And with his experience with angels, I can totally see his point. I wouldn’t want angels like Zachariah or Uriel running the show. I still like this idea of Heaven, but I can see why Dean, after all he’s been through, isn’t ready to trust it. Besides, acquiring this peace only results after a surrender and he’s not ready to do that yet. Which makes me happy.

Pam presses that the “attic is still better than the basement” which Dean can’t really argue with, however he points out that it isn’t real. Real is Earth. Pam, though, wants to know the worst thing that could happen if Dean said yes to Michael. A lot of people would die, Dean says. And Pam retorts, “And they’d come here. Is that so bad? Maybe you don’t have to fight it so hard.”

WARNING! WARNING! That statement had bells going off for me all over the place. I don’t know if I know who to trust—even among their friends. Anyway, while Pam is busy trying to bring Dean over to the dark side, Ash found a shortcut to the Garden.

Dean: “Good.”

Ash gives him a look.

Dean: “Not good?”

Ash just warns him that Zach is going to be on their asses, so watch ‘em. Pam gives Sam a hug and then full-on French-kisses a very surprised-looking Dean. She removes her tongue from his throat and smiles like a cat. “Just how I imagined.”

*raises an eyebrow* Okay, I have to give her props for that. Still don’t really trust her, though.

Ash: “I’m sure I’ll see you again soon.”

Dean: “Keep a sixer on ice for us.”

Annnnddd… they're back…home? They’re confused and start looking for another door when Mary shows up…In. The. White. Nightgown. Of. Doom. I knew this was going to go bad as soon as I saw what she was wearing. What I want to know is, what happens to angels like Zach who torture God’s creations physically and mentally just to get what he wants? If God’s not going to step in and save mankind, then I’d really, really like him to punish his ‘soldiers’ who have been causing such a ruckus in his sandbox.

At first Mary’s sweet, asking Dean what he was doing up, and did he have a nightmare. Dean’s impatient, says he loves her, but she’s not real. And then, Samantha Smith shows us she knows how to fight dirty. Mary’s voice turns hard, cold, and flat-out mean as she suggests she tell Dean about her nightmare. And then blood spreads across her belly.

The boys turn as one to face her, both of their expressions twin images of shock, but Dean’s slowly melts to lip-bouncing denial laced with pain while Sam’s hardens to disbelief and anger.

Mary crushes Dean by turning yellow eyes on him saying, “I never loved you. You were my burden. I was shackled to you. Look where it got me.”

Dean knows that’s not real—that’s not his mother’s heart—but it’s just like hearing Azazel speak through his father’s voice, wearing his father’s face. It hurts. It has effect.

The windows brick up and Sam calls Dean’s name as Dean searches for an out. Mary continues that the smell was the worst, and talks about the pain of burning. She says, “Everybody leaves you, Dean. Mom, Dad, even Sam. Maybe it’s not them. Maybe it’s you…”

Sam looks pissed. Dean looks broken. And then Zach shows up and two thug-angels grab the boys. I didn’t even know there were thug-angels.

Sam bellows: “You did this!” and goes for Zach, calling him a son of a bitch. I loved that.

He was probably just referring to this warped memory of Mary pulled from Dean’s deep well of self-doubt and loathing, but I think it could apply to all of it: the murders, the stark differences in memories, the way it was all this strategic play to break Dean down… I am probably looking too far into it, but I can’t help but think that when Dean called Heavenward for help, it was a party line and some of the listeners decided to take advantage.

Dean growls that Zach can, “Gloat all you want, you dick. You’re still bald.”

Zach: “In Heaven I have six wings and four faces, one of which is a lion.”

Uh, wait…aren’t you in Heaven now? Yeah, so shut up, baldy.

He continues to totally skeeve everyone (including me) out by calling Mary a MILF, kissing her neck, caressing her arm…gack. Zach snaps his fingers and Mary vanishes. Dean quips about wearing a ballgag until they say yes and Zach gut-punches him, tells the thug-angel to pull him up and then punches him again. Sam struggles in the grip of his own thug-angel, pissed to be made to watch his brother get beaten up by this guy.

Zach throws a tantrum about how he used to have respect until he was assigned those two. Cry me a river. Dean is holding his belly in pain, but has his chin up and his eyes challenging Zach, who is busy rambling about how he’s going to be an angel on their shoulders for eternity when suddenly a somewhat timid black man shows up.

Zach: “I’m in a meeting.” Heh.

Man: “I need to speak to those two.”

Zach’s all, over my dead body, and the man just calmly states that it’s bosses orders. “Sooner or later he’s gonna come back home and you know how he is with that…wrath…thing.”

Well he better be! Starting with Zachariah! *hrrumph*

Next thing you know, Zach and the thug-angels are gone annnnnddd…the boys are in…a Botanical Garden?

Sam: “This is Heaven’s Garden?”

Dean: “This is…nice-ish.”

Joshua (formerly referred to as ‘Man’): You see what you want to. For some it’s God’s Throne Room, others it’s Eden. For you two it’s the Cleveland Botanical Gardens. You went here on a field trip.”

So, once more, they share a vision of Heaven. I’m leaning more and more toward the soul mate theory. Which is the one thing—well, maybe I should say one of the things—that is giving me hope that they’ll find their way back to even ground and united belief in each other and family.

Anyway, Josh doesn’t talk to God, God talks to Josh. Josh doesn’t know where He is or what He’s doing—except? That He’s on Earth. God is on Earth, people. Don’t tell me that’s not going to come into play—regardless what Josh said God said… Josh says that he thinks God talks to him because he can sympathize, one Gardener to another. Plus? He thinks God gets lonely.

Dean: “My heart is breaking for him.”

God has a message for the boys: Back off. Apparently, he knows about what’s going on with the angels and the apocalypse and all of that and says it’s not his problem. He’s saved the boys already—put them on that plane, brought Cas back, gave them sanctuary in Heaven. He’s finished. Magic amulet or not.

Dean is crushed. “He’s just going to let everyone burn?”

Josh: “Why does he allow evil in the first place?” You’d make yourself crazy trying to figure it out.

I admit, I had to sit with this a bit. Writing-wise, it’s good. No Deus Ex Machina. I like the added angst. But character wise, it makes me ache for Dean and Cas and fear for Sam. And part of me rebels against that—wants God to just step in and be The Almighty, The Creator. Wants him to stop it and fix it as Dean wants him to.

But then I thought about it…and Josh has a point. God’s already provided the tools and now it’s up to humanity and the angels to find a way to make this work. To work in the way He designed it to work. Dean saying ‘yes’ to Michael and Sam saying ‘yes’ to Lucifer is not the only way—it’s not like Joshua said “you got no other choice”… I don’t know. I’m struggling with how I feel about this a bit. Part of me likes that God isn’t stepping in and is instead allowing humanity to find its way. And part of me wants so badly for Dean to have the moment of faith confirmation he so desperately needs.

I wonder, though, if Josh had said that God would step in and fix it…would Dean have accepted that? Would he have trusted? Maybe there’s another reason that this all has to play out this way…

Dean: “Another dead-beat dad with a bunch of excuses…I’ll muddle through.”

Josh: “Except you don’t know if you can this time… you can’t kill the devil and you’re losing faith in yourself, your brother…”

That exchange gutted me a bit. That was the only reason I wanted God to step in. To help heal them. To give Dean some faith. But then…the very definition of faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, concept or thing. God—or someone—can’t just give it to him. He has to find it for himself. Joshua’s words were said with sympathy. He wants the boys to ‘win’, to succeed. But he can only tell them what he knows and nothing more. And speculating as to meaning would get them nowhere.

Joshua says he’s sending them home…but this time, God wants them to remember. Why, I wonder? Remember the differences in their memories? Remember that they have friends on the other side? Sam to remember what all his brother has been through, how full of doubt and pain he still is? Dean to remember that Sam didn’t think he was worthy of Heaven either? I mean, they already know that Zach is a manipulative bastard… Maybe they’re supposed to remember that God is somewhere on Earth?

Argh! Six episodes doesn’t feel like enough to figure it out.

With great gasps of air, they wake up and sit up, shirts bloody, same motel room. Hunter #1 and #2 are gone, of course, but if they run into them again, they’re gonna be freaking out.

Sam: “You all right?”

Dean: “Define all right.”

I love that the first thing Dean does is call Cas, but I so hated the betrayed, broken look on Cas’ face when he found out what Joshua said. Dean is watching him, sympathy in his eyes. Cas turns his back to the brothers and looks up growling, “You son of a bitch! I believed in…”

And he just stops. He pulls out the amulet and hands it back to Dean saying, “It’s worthless.” Then he’s gone. Sam’s got that anxious, nervous energy movement—the kind that says as long as we keep moving, we’re okay—and he says, “We’ll find another way.”

Dean, with a dead, hollow voice, asks, “How?” He’s fingering the amulet.

Sam: “I don’t know, but we’ll find it. You and me. We’ll find it.”

Dean walks past Sam without a word and pauses just before opening the door. I gasped right before he did it; Sam gasped right after. Dean drops the amulet in the trash can and walks out. Sam’s gasp says it all: that hurt. It might not have worked as a God-finder, but it wasn’t worthless. Dean wore it for years—years—signifying their brotherhood. Sam wore it while Dean was in Hell. It was the first thing he gave back to him.

Dean throwing it away show just how far down the rabbit hole he’s fallen. Just how empty, spent, done he really is. Seeing Sam’s ‘happy’ memories as times when he was away from Dean—one of them being a moment Dean thought his brother was dead and had to suffer John’s wrath, and the other being “the worst day of his life”—pulled out a pretty large supporting rock. Having the image/memory of his mom (even if she was being manipulated by Zach) say aloud that everyone leaves him, removed another.

And now, finding out that those times he prayed, those times he actually allowed himself to believe, didn’t result in the help he so desperately sought…he’s bottoming out. And not to discount or minimize Sam’s struggle in all of this, but…I think Sam’s got his work cut out for him. He’s gotta fight for his brother. Maybe fight his brother directly to get him to come around. Sam has been buffeted by this storm, but Dean’s drowning, and I think Sam might be the only thing to save him.

Side note: we fade to black on Sam's hurt expression. Part of me wonders if he might not just fish that thing out of the trash before leaving the room...hold onto it for a little while until he can find a way to help Dean help himself...and help them all.

Next week looks very apocalyptic. And I’m already anxious.

Thanks for reading—hope it wasn’t too emotional. But this was one of those episodes that left me aching a bit. I really appreciate those of you who read and thank you for taking the time to comment if you feel compelled.

Take care, all.



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Apr. 2nd, 2010 06:10 am (UTC)
This episode was HARD. Especially with Joshua's message from God. It's too late to get into it tonight, but I think you might have an idea, Gaelic, why this ep may have been a little tough for me to watch. Especially after the last week, last few months I've had. Usually I can get lost in SPN's interpretation of God/mythology/angels, etc. and it doesn't bug me. Today, this ep hit a little too close to home. Sigh. But it was still a good ep. Well, I've got a nice long 3-day weekend ahead of me to re-center (the boss-man let me have Monday off, can you believe that?!).

TTYL, my dear?
Apr. 2nd, 2010 12:50 pm (UTC)
Of course, ttyl. :) I'm always here -- I may be neck-deep in work or trying to balance a kiddo, but I'm never far away.

And yeah, there were times in this episode that I thought of you and your plight -- and then spread that out to all of us and how we all struggle, each day, to believe and trust and then... what if... *sniff*

Thank you for reading.
Apr. 2nd, 2010 07:15 am (UTC)
I'm In Heaven...
... and my heart is breaking that I can hardly speak. I have never felt so completely bummed out, at least not like this, in any other SN episode. To feel so much emotions and have deep meaningful thought from a one hour show. And doesn't that just say a lot to the writers of this show? :D Man, they are good!

My friend and I often talk about our beliefs(we share the same view on God,etc) and she sometimes say that to her, Heaven would be boring. Imagine, the perfect paradise for eternity! Nothing changes, its always the same, etc. If she does get to Heaven, she's not gonna stay long. She said that she'll come back to earth reincarnated into someone else. After Dean talk about Heaven(aside that the angels are in charge) and remembering what my friend said, maybe they got a point. lol

You know, as soon as they went down each of the guys' memory lane, I knew the fandom were gonna have their say about it. Especially the part where Dean threw away the amulet. And they didn't disappoint. The Sam vs. Dean comes on full force.

Man, I felt like a kicked puppy after this ep. I felt disappointed as Dean did about God because like you I wanted Dean's faith renewed too. Get back that fire in his belly to go full charging but it just doesn't look that way, does it? Sam seems to be the only one pulling for Team Free Will. Until someone pointed out over in SN.tv that possibly the reason God doesn't want to get involved was because of free will. Its our choices and its time to grow up. Its like God is the parent, letting go their kid off into the real world but doesn't help out when the kid is faced with grown up problems. Its up to the kid to figure it out. He taught you whatever you needed to know, presented the tools and now its up to you fix it yourself. God's not gonna shift the balance. A part of me thought the reason God was telling them to back off was maybe he's fed up with the bitching and the moaning from everyone. Like God(The Parent again. lol) is tired of hearing the siblings bickering and just said, "Screw it. I'm done with you guys. You figure out this yourselves. I'll be over here, sucking down a mojito." But for now, I'm going for the first thing I said.

Cas's own disappointment just murdered me. The poor guy, an angel was so sure and hopeful that once they found God, all will be good and everything would be ok then it was like the rug got pulled out from under him. These writers and actors, man. They come and do work. lol

This episode is all gonna come to some explanation later on. I just know it. While this all seems scary and frightening to us for our heroes, Kripke's got something cooked and I don't think he's gonna leave us disappointed. 6 episodes left for this season and you know what? I'm right with you. I'm not ready for this story to be finished. Not yet. ;)

Apr. 2nd, 2010 07:20 am (UTC)
Re: I'm In Heaven...
One more thing I wanted to add. To me, in my mind Sam picked the amulet out of the trash, starts wearing it underneath his shirts and sometime down the line, after the apocalypse is over or whatever, talking to someone, he feels a slight burning sensation and realized that it was God.... or something along the lines of that. lol :P
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Apr. 2nd, 2010 09:57 am (UTC)
I was incoherent after the episode...Appreciate that you could provide some franmework for me to flail upon.

If Sam doesn't rescue the amulet a million fans are going to hunt Kripke...
Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:00 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. Flail away. I'm still a little sore--I couldn't turn my brain off last night.

If Sam doesn't rescue the amulet a million fans are going to hunt Kripke...

Inoright? It's not like we haven't made it CLEAR how important we find that. I think that's exactly why he had Dean do what he did...because it was the biggest way to show us just how LOW Dean is...

Ouch, though. *sniff* These boys hurt me.
Apr. 2nd, 2010 11:11 am (UTC)
I just watched and then read this..and you've said it all!

This show... ♥

Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:01 pm (UTC)
Hearts all over. *hugs you*

I don't even have art requests for you. It's just... ouch. And at the same time OMG. With a heavy dose of ican'twaitfornextthursday.

Thank you for reading.
Apr. 2nd, 2010 11:11 am (UTC)
This episode just broke my heart.

But yay Ash!!
Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:02 pm (UTC)
YAY Ash indeed!!! He was so awesome!!!! :)

Thank you for coming by. Good to see you. :)
Apr. 2nd, 2010 11:33 am (UTC)
sad.. :(
you've said it all.
Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:02 pm (UTC)
Re: sad.. :(
*is STILL sad*

Thank you for reading. :)
Apr. 2nd, 2010 12:34 pm (UTC)
I'm rubbing my heart too. For all three of them- Dean, Sam and Castiel. Dean was FINALLY turning to faith as a last possible hope, and that was completely yanked out from under him. What else is left for him? It was just heartbreaking.

I'm with Dean on this version of heaven. I can't handle more than a day with nothing to do and accomplish without getting stir crazy. I believe we keep going and growing and learning, and we get to do it with the people we love the most.

I think you're right. Dean's going to say yes. What else is there to stop him? Everything he's lived for is all falling apart into shreds. *sniffle*
Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:06 pm (UTC)
I can't handle more than a day with nothing to do and accomplish without getting stir crazy. I believe we keep going and growing and learning, and we get to do it with the people we love the most.

See, that's what I thought was so intriguing about this concept of Heaven. If that's what you wanted, who's to say you wouldn't get that? And if the people you loved the most wouldn't also help you figure out ways to stop some random angel's nefarious plans to trigger armegeddon, who's to say you couldn't be with them?

I totally hear what you're saying -- and that's why I'm not 100% sure I know what I believe Heaven to be -- but I could also see a level of peace in this concept that sometimes I just downright need

I think you're right. Dean's going to say yes. What else is there to stop him? Everything he's lived for is all falling apart into shreds. *sniffle*

Oh, Dean. He's really breaking me this Season. It's like for the hour he's on my screen, I forget he's not real and I just... sink into this aching despair and will him to climb out of it.


Thank you for reading!! :)
Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:01 pm (UTC)
I love you....you nailed this down flat. This was an excercise in breaking Dean Winchester - all of it manipulated from the get go (even teh fireworks scene - just to show him what he can never have again). I think Dean knows it (shit, GOD knows it) but everyone is so used to Dean Winchester sucking it up and moving along (even Dean) that they expect him to brush it off. But he can't. Even knowing it's all a trick - they hit all the right points - No one cares, no one gives a shit but him - and where does that get him in the end?

This was also a fuck you to Sam. This was a front row ticket to Dean's downward spiral - and once he could have stopped it, but now? Yeah.

That scene with Cas broke me. There were moments in this ep that I saw it coming - and yet was still helpless before the storm of it. The amulet scene...i knew - I KNEW and yet...gods.

I loved this ep. Kripke is a bastard - and it's terrible, because I think HE loves Dean as much as we do. Thus..the neverending ass kicking. GOD DEAN.

I ached so badly for all of them here - there's just...

And yeah, Dean can go through the motions - that statement of 'I'll muddle through' was a threat and a sneer all at once. He can do his job - no matter what blows he takes. But yeah, this leaves me thinking 'We all know when Sam said yes - but no one mentioned (or seems to know) when DEAN said yes.' Makes me wonder if Sam said yes...because Dean did. Dean is his foundation. If that's gone...yeah. This is the end here - Dean making one last sacrifice and acceidentally throwing his brother towards the Pit. Because once more - he's not there to save Sam from himself. Also? Cas!2014 anyone?

Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:18 pm (UTC)
but everyone is so used to Dean Winchester sucking it up and moving along (even Dean) that they expect him to brush it off

It's this take-Dean-for-granted attitude that makes me really feel why the concept of Heaven they presented wasn't appealing to Dean. Because what would make him happy isn't the same thing as what would make his family happy and that in and of itself is a Hell for Dean.

This was a front row ticket to Dean's downward spiral - and once he could have stopped it, but now? Yeah.

So, SO true. And how much did it ache to have to watch Sam watch this? Just seeing all of this come crashing down on his big brother and not be able to make it stop? Oh, this show is going to break me, well and truly.

'We all know when Sam said yes - but no one mentioned (or seems to know) when DEAN said yes.' Makes me wonder if Sam said yes...because Dean did

Oh, I get what you're saying. At first I was like, "he didn't say yes, that was the problem," but what he actually said was that by the time he said yes, the angels weren't listening anymore... We know that Sam went to Detroit and said yes, but we don't really know if that happened BEFORE or AFTER Dean gave in.

Clever girl.

I kinda took it to mean at the time that it happened BEFORE -- that Dean only finally gave in because he'd lost Sam as well...mainly because of the bitterness he displayed when he talked about Sam's choice. But I could, in retrospect, very easily look back and see that bitterness be directed at what he would perceive as his own failure.


And Cas, yes. Man, that just... *sniff* Poor, poor Angel.

Thank you for coming by and reading! This is a first, yes? :) It's good to see you.
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Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:27 pm (UTC)
This epi simply compiled all the power gathered probably in most of this season's episodes. It had it all: drama, love, jokes and old and dear friend here and there, but, it was so painful and so hopeless at the end that sometimes i wonder if i am a masochist and never realized if before for watching this:)). It's all Kripke's fault, lol. But it owns me for a long time now and there's no stopping...The most incredible show on tv!!Gosh, my heart ached so much when Mary appeared and said those things to Dean, i mean i know she wasn't real, and Zachariah was behind it all, but still, how many blows a human being can take?! They were right when they said on those previous infos about the epi's descriptions that the boys would have to hit the rock bottom to start living properly again. I mean from this to where? Dean is so broken and Sam, poor thing now it seems like is all alone in this mess. According to Joshua, God doesn't care so ...damn you, Kripke!:)
Apr. 2nd, 2010 08:24 pm (UTC)
sometimes i wonder if i am a masochist and never realized if before for watching this

I have so often thought the same thing! Why oh why do I enjoy hurting so badly?? LOL!

how many blows a human being can take

I don't think much more. And it kills me that I'm like down for the count most of the day on Friday because I can't help but think about what Dean has been dealing with. *shakes head at self*

Dean is so broken and Sam, poor thing now it seems like is all alone in this mess

*rubs heart* Oh, I know. I know. But I think that while Dean has always been my hero, Sam is actually the stronger of the two -- not mightier, just...stronger. I think Dean tries so hard to take care of everyone that he forgets to find out what he wants. Sam has a pretty good idea what he wants. He always has. And I think that has helped him stay strong.

And I'm counting on his strength to grab on to his brother and pull him up. To not let Dean give up on himself. Kinda like how Dean did that for Sam last season...

Oh, boy. You make my heart hurt.

Thanks so much for reading and taking time to comment! :) *grins*
Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:47 pm (UTC)
I had to look up MILF, I never heard that term before, which stuns me considering it's me...

While Zachariah was lipping Mary's neck I was sitting there screaming "YOU PIG!!!!"

I saw the previews but couldn't hear anything because the stupid clock was chiming....

The scene with Dean and his Mom after the phone call hit a little to close to home for me but it certainly put me in the right mood for the rest of the show.
Apr. 2nd, 2010 08:26 pm (UTC)
OMG... you are the best. This is the first of the comments where I've actually LAUGHED out loud. I needed that. I'm all kerfluffled after this episode.

which stuns me considering it's me

You and me both, sister.

I saw the previews but couldn't hear anything because the stupid clock was chiming....

Heh. What have I told you about that clock, eh?? Eh???

The scene with Dean and his Mom after the phone call hit a little to close to home for me

Yeah, I bet it did. A lot of the scenes found my weak points and dug in. *hugs you*

PSSSST: Happy (early) Birthday!!! (Just in case anyone is reading my replies and wants to wish you a happy birthday, too.)
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Apr. 2nd, 2010 01:55 pm (UTC)
I was alternatively grinning and crying through your review, as I did through the episode. I admire you for being capable of coherent thoughts after that. Man, what a roller coaster!

I'm sure Sam picked up the amulet from the trashcan. And he will give it back to his brother when it will be appropriate. *believes*
Apr. 2nd, 2010 08:31 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much! I'm so glad you read and took time to comment. I'm with you -- roller coaster no doubt!

And I'm going to keep believing he saved the amulet until we are shown otherwise...


Hope to see you next week.
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Apr. 2nd, 2010 08:41 pm (UTC)
Somehow I totally missed that you were atheist. Wow! So all of this storyline and debate has to be extremely interesting to you to observe. :)

That said I do sometimes envy people who genuinely, truly, believe in a higher power and a reward at the end for a life lived as decently as possible. That kind of faith must be... Nice.

This is JUST my opinion, but sometimes it's nice and sometimes it makes me hurt. It's complicated and confusing and exhilerating and bizarre. I can't even explain it to myself sometimes. I despair at explaining it to Mo Chuisle.

As far as the episode goes, I do grow a little weary of the blows our boys keep taking and the weight that keeps getting piled on. I went cold when I read what you said about thinking Dean will say yes. I hope against hope that he won't.

I don't want to be right. I really, really don't. But I feel somethign coiling inside Dean even as he's visibly unraveling and I just... I have a feeling that I'm going to cry a lot more in the next 6 episodes. I almost want a Butch and Sundance ending now -- especially because we have a Season 6 to look forward to. Because the B&S ending, they were bloody and beaten, but racing out together. Very, very much together.

The necklace bit I will confess is going to irk me considerably. I get why they are using it, as a symbol of Dean's desolation, but knowing that it meant so much to him long before it ever became a way of finding god - and knowing why it was that important to him - it just felt wrong. And like a slap in the face to Sam, even if it wasn't intended that way.

Agreed. And I think it might have been meant to be a slap in the face to Sam. I think it was Dean's way of saying how badly he was hurt by the things he found out -- Sam being happy when he ran away while Dean was in pain, Sam being happy when he left for Stanford when it was the worst day of Dean's life. And no, Sam couldn't control it NOW, but he could have controlled it THEN and that's what Dean is focusing on.

I think it's his way of saying, I mean it, I'm done, and just because you think there's another way doesn't mean I have to agree.

I think he was saying that he was realizing how differently they defined family and he didn't know how to deal with that.

I think he was throwing a temper tantrum and will regret it, but I don't blame him for it. I can't say I'd behave differently if I were despondant and hurting and lost and felt as if I'd pulled my brother up time and again and that no one was reaching out for me.


Yeah, I think he meant to hurt Sam because he was hurting. And he didn't know what else to do about it.

He said to me that you could see the vein in Jensen's neck throbbing, like it does when you are upset or scared, and he commented (a little awed) that 'you can't act that'.

OMG! I so very much LOVE this! Squee! :)

Your two pence are always welcome. Come by anytime. :)
Apr. 2nd, 2010 02:21 pm (UTC)
Okay, I skimmed your review. I really just read what you thought about things, I hope I caught them all.

First, isn't it funny that this is called, 'Dark Side of the Moon' and yesterday was the 80th anniversary of 'the Wizard of Oz'? I thought it was funny because of the 'DSoftheM' with 'WoOz' connection.

Anyway, I read your notes, wondering if you were going to pick up the same vibes as I did. For them most part, spot on.

I agree - the Sam killing made me jump, too. Dean's "When I come back, I'm gonna be pissed." Was AWESOME! I loved it!

So here's my thing - Sam's heavens were Sam based. Sam when he ran away, Sam's Thanksgiving dinner with a different family, Sam and the Stanford house. Okay. Come on. There are other memories Sam has that involve his brother and father that were not bad. Memories that I am sure Sam would have gone to if he had been in control. Definitely, someone was controlling this.

Dean's memories - family based. Sam. Mom. Pie. Toy cars. Mom. Someone was toying with him, letting him remember what was important to him, letting him get the impression that family was NOT important to Sam so that when he spun around and said, "It's suppose to be you and me against the world!" And Sam yells, "It is!" That Dean is supposed to, at this point, really not believe him.

Ash was adorable! I loved his masked self - made me miss Ash and I felt like Ash was true in this. I thought there were enemies and friends in this episode. I thought Pamela sitting and telling Dean about how great it all was... was not Pamela. I felt she was placed there.

For both brothers going to heaven, this was a very Dean-based episode. Mom being sweet and lovely in the beginning - even the "You're my little angel" to the mom telling him he was her nightmare - I think both mom's were ploys. And hitting it off with a 'young' Sammy - one who hugs his big brother and Dean reluctantly hugs back and then it feels so good, he kind of is surprised when Sam lets go - another plot.

I caught the 'soul mate' line and look. I thought the Cleveland Botanical Center was awesome - and, yeah, it was a shared spot for them. It was 'their' garden. Joshua was possibly very real but his message he gave I wondered if it meant something different, if it means more than we think it does.

So, last season, the demons and Ruby guided Sam step by step so he'd be able to kill Lilith. This season, it's the angels who are trying to guide Dean step by step to say yes to Michael. The only demon who seems to be after Sam is Lucifer himself. We've seen a bit of Meg, but she doesn't seem to give a damn. But Zachariah is moving his pieces on the chess board and he's just ripping Dean down one person at a time.

Which brings me to Cas. Two things: One - I'm still on the fence about him. I think I trust him but this episode? It made me throw him in the fire again. I wonder if, like Ruby, if Cas has his own agenda in mind. AND - the point where he says, "I believed in -" At this point, he seems to be quiet, almost listening. I think God was talking to Cas here. His mouth even starts to turn up, like a small smile and then he gives the amulet back and flutters away.

It doesn't feel right.

It is funny the way the show has turned, it is painful to watch. I almost wish for the 'good old days' when Dad died or when Dean had only sold his soul. At the time, these were horrible things, but at least the brothers were together. At least they were on the same page.

And, yeah, I think there is going to be a blow between them. Sam is going to push and Dean is going to shut down and punches are going to fly. I don't know. Maybe this season they will break down more and next season they will come together again. I'm sick of the pulling apart, though. Like really, I'm sick of it. It almost makes me not want to watch, it makes me so mad.

Great ramble. I dig your comments.
Apr. 2nd, 2010 08:46 pm (UTC)
You got the gist of everything from your skim. :)

It seems that we agree, my friend! How wonderful! And I like your thoughtling that Cas was listening to someone when he stopped talking. God? Josh? Who? I don't know, but it did almost feel like he was...interrupted...

*is intrigued*

And I'm with you. I don't not want to watch, but I hear you in that it makes one weary, this struggle and fight. I feel like I'm helplessly watching the universe play chess with two people I love but they don't really know they're pawns and each move I see growing closer to check mate -- but I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.


I want to go back to good guys and bad guys. A clean line.

Apr. 2nd, 2010 02:43 pm (UTC)
Oh my gosh, girl, I don't even know where to start! There's too much. I just can't process and I don't have time right now to reply in depth...but I HAD to read your thoughts on this one come hell or high water because that episode was so full.

I have so much to say...but right now, I want to get this linked at SN.tv. This was a great review and you and I are on very, very similiar pages with this whole thing.

Awesome job!
Apr. 2nd, 2010 08:51 pm (UTC)
*hugs you tightly*

Thank you for this, my friend. I needed your words. I didn't really think about fandom exploding until the scene with the amulet and then I got that sick pit in my stomach and now I'm seeing stuff in FB status lines that make me all...errrr!

I actually went to a friend's journal -- knowing she usually disagrees with me about the show, or at least has a less emotional take on it -- and found myself defending Dean.

WHY?? Why do I do that. It's just...erf. Silly! And gives me this rotten feeling that I have to do something physical to shake off. Like run around the block.

Thank you for posting this on sn.tv and for commenting. It was needed. :)

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Apr. 2nd, 2010 03:44 pm (UTC)
I always enjoy reading your Ramble. It really helps me to put the episode in perspective and often validates my own reactions. I agree with this statement whole heartedly:
“They better save him—or show him the way to save himself. I’m not sure exactly what I’ll do if they don’t, but…well, they just better.” -- Absolutely, they damn well better!!!!

And I felt exactly the same way when it was all over:
“I’m just spun a bit. And before those of you who are more grounded than I am on a regular basis remind me that it’s simply a TV show…I know. I know it is. But it doesn’t matter. It still spins me right round, baby, right round.” -- After it was over I had to turn off the set and process what I’d just watched for a few minutes.

“The cosmos-sky effect while Dean was driving down the road was wicked cool.” -- Very cool, indeed!

“I wonder exactly how much power the angels have in Heaven. I wonder how much of this just happened and how much was designed. Maybe even including their murders. If it was by design, then it would make a little more sense to me how a seasoned hunter like Dean could get jumped in a motel room—his under-the-pillow-gun taken away from him—and that the memories Sam jumped through were seemingly designed to break Dean down, hollow him out, leave him hopeless.” -- I had these very same thoughts. And then when Mary turned on Dean, I wondered how the heck did a demon get into heaven? And how could an angel even contemplate what Zach was doing? I mean, I thought they had no free will? Then I wondered if they were even really in heaven. It just all seemed so very, very wrong.

“Side note: we fade to black on Sam's hurt expression. Part of me wonders if he might not just fish that thing out of the trash before leaving the room...hold onto it for a little while until he can find a way to help Dean help himself...and help them all.” -– I have faith that he did. I’m not so sure we’re done with it yet.
Apr. 2nd, 2010 08:54 pm (UTC)

Thank you for coming by to read and thank you even more for commenting!! :)

And then when Mary turned on Dean, I wondered how the heck did a demon get into heaven

I went there, too -- thinking it was a demon, until I remembered where they were. Zach has to be punished for this. Talk about an abuse of power. ARGH! I hate that guy.

I have faith that he did. I’m not so sure we’re done with it yet.

*decides to believe you*

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