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Wow, it's been a year since I've done one of these. Not sure if any of you are even still around. I hope so; it would be fun to hear from you. I had a friend reach out and ask me to write a Ramble for the Season 12 finale and as it turns out, I liked it enough to say yes. So...here goes.



Just in case anyone is actually reading this, a reminder that this is all opinion only, based on one viewing, and as such should be taken with whatever sized grain of salt you deem appropriate.

First off, I didn't stop writing my weekly rambles because of the Show; I stopped because of life. When I started these reviews back in S2 (posting them to LiveJournal in S3), my daughter was an infant, my husband was still working full time, and my hours much more manageable. Fast forward through S12 and I have a ten year old, my husband is a stay-at-home dad, I travel a lot, and work 12hr days on a regular basis. Watching the show when it actually aired has become a rarity; writing a review before the next episode air a pipe dream. But! I never stopped watching.

*me to Show: I can't quit you!*

All that being said, I've had mixed feelings about this season. There were some good episodes—none as stand-out as, say, Baby, or packing the emotional punch of any episode from Seasons 1-5—but good none-the-less. There were also some episodes that had me thankful that I wasn't writing a weekly review because I wouldn't know how to spin the positive well enough.

I'll start with a broad sweep of reactions to primary storylines, then get into reactions to the two-part finale. And let me know if I miss storylines/plots that you think should be included.

The Season

British Men of Letters. Wasn't a big fan of that whole storyline, to be honest. I thought Mick was interesting and had hope for his redemption (until, of course, they killed him), but even when Ketch was hunting with Dean, he made me snarl. The tech bored me—it was too easy, too efficient. Too black and white. If there is one thing we'd learned over the last decade plus it's that the supernatural exists in the gray area. There is not clear right or wrong. The boys killed Madison because she was a werewolf who couldn't control her urges, but let Kate go because she was one who could. For years on end they worked closely with a demon—scratch that, not just a demon, the King of Hell—and his mother, a witch...and they have also killed witches for their evil deeds. Angels are both good and bad, and hunters can become vampires.

There was no way those nuances, those allowances were ever going to be shown to a group of people sitting behind a screen in a pristine room pointing at blinking dots on a map and determining not if they lived or died, but how quickly to kill them. They were pompous and arrogant and had me rolling my eyes multiple times. When Mary teamed with them, I saw her reasons even though I disagreed with them, and knew that it would end badly. And don't get me started on Mary actually sleeping with Ketch. I mean. Standards, girl!

Mary's return. This storyline intrigued me. One of the things that Supernatural has always been able to do to me is grab at my heartstrings (no plucking, it's a full-on grab) when it comes to the sometimes complicated relationships between parents and children. I am the oldest of five, and I've always had a complicated relationship with my mother. For so many years in the Supernatural verse, the parental angst was reserved for John, for obvious reasons. And while I connected much better on a personal level with my own father, I was also put into a position of authority over my four siblings when I was young (12) and there were things that Dean experienced because of John's parental choices that resonated deeply with me.

With Mary, though, the game board changed. She'd always been this perfect memory for Dean, this almost angelic image in his mind. He shoved his brother against the side of a bridge in the Pilot episode for daring to speak negatively in any way about Mary. Then, she's returned to him and she's this actual...person. Flawed and real and confused and afraid and angry and lonely and heartbroken. He—well, they, of course, but my view gravitates to seeing things through my perception of Dean—is suddenly forced to reconcile his memories of a mother he last saw when he was four to the women now basically the same age as him.

They really could have done a lot more with the Mary storyline and the emotional connection and ramifications of her return—and I think that is the crux of my basic meh feeling about the season as a whole: they could have done a lot more with the emotion, the humanity, the connection of characters and instead they went for the glitz and glam of the BMoLs and a "let's put other people and characters in several episodes to give J and J a break from being in every scene" approach—but with the (major) exception of her beer goggles with Ketch, I actually liked what they did with Mary.

I both hated and loved that she left them—it left me feeling delightfully conflicted. As a mother, I got it. I understood that need to figure out who she was now, as a person and a woman and a hunter. I could see her needing to be more than just this perfect memory of a woman who really never existed in the first place. The image that Dean had from his childhood and Sam had from the stories he was told was of the Mary she wanted to be, not the Mary she was. And she didn't have enough time as their mother and John's wife to figure out how to balance Mary Campbell and Mary Winchester. Her need to figure out who she was on her own before she could figure out who she was to her now-grown up boys resonated with me as a mom, a wife, a woman.

However, as a daughter, I hated it. It brought back all the hurt and resentment I felt toward my own mother when she checked out on me when I was twelve, turning me into a caretaker and confidant and not giving me space to be a child. It made me angry at Mary. And it made me protective of Dean. It made me think about all the ways I would never do that to my own daughter, no matter what.

And I really liked that they were able to make me feel two polarizing emotions with one storyline.

The Nephilim. This was a season where The Big Bad seemed to be constantly shifting. Was it the BMoLs? Was it Lucifer?  Or was it the arrival of the son of the Devil? I mean, for a little bit there, it could have even been Mary. And I’m not quite sure “Jack” is bad. His impending arrival certainly left us thinking he would spell trouble for everyone. I don’t know if I really have any fully developed thoughts about this storyline quite yet. The search for Kelly and Daegon’s ‘protection’ and all of that kind of bored me, so I think I’ll have to wait to S13 to figure out what I think about this concept of Lucifer’s son existing on Earth.

The Boys. The reason I watch, full stop. I’ve always been a Dean girl—I mean, if you’ve read even one of my past Ramble’s you’d pick up on that pretty fast. I really liked how together they were this season. They were aligned, no secrets, no betrayal, no “it’s for your own good” crazy plans that didn’t involve each other. They had each other's backs. They were family. Whenever they were on the screen, I enjoyed the episode. Especially the finale, which I’ll get to in a minute.

The biggest problem for me, to be completely honest, is that…they really didn’t do much. I mean, with the BMoLs running around with all their high-tech savvy and Cas doing his angel thing, and the increase in connecting with additional hunters this season, it felt like a 60/40 split of the Winchesters actually making a difference in the outcome of the story and taking a knee so that someone else could step up. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I get that after 12 years and 3 kids each, the actors need some downtime. I can completely appreciate that. But if I think about why I didn’t enjoy parts of the season or parts of an episode, it’s because it was Winchester-lite…or focused on things that, quite frankly, I didn’t care about.

It’s hard to care about everything all season long for the 12th season in a row. I used to do that—think about every little seemingly dropped line or wayward plot devise and wonder how it would ultimately all play into the end game. But either the writing has relaxed enough that I can’t be bothered to engage that deeply, or I’ve gotten numb to the hand-waving and just watch for the parts that have Dean and Sam in them. Because those parts shine.

The Finale

Okay, of the two episodes, I enjoyed Who We Are better than All Along the Watchtower (although 12.23 gets points for a kick-ass title). Taken as a whole, however, this finale was hands-down better than last seasons on so many levels. In fact, it was one of the better finales in quite some time, I thought.

I’m going to do the love, liked, and not so much thing I used to do to keep this from becoming a tome. I just hope I can keep from blurring the lines between the episodes.

12.22 - Who We Are

Loved

  • The fact that the brothers did not kill Lady Whatshername, even though she deserved it not only for what she did to Mary, but for what she did to Sam. These guys are some of the most forgiving souls on the planet, able to find a way to work with people who have tortured them or someone they loved.

  • The ‘blaze of glory’ conversation between the boys as they were attempting to “Shawshank” the bunker. I adored that whole scene—Dean in the black shirt, the goggles comment, the way they kind of just sank down, side-by-side, exhausted, the musing of how they each thought they would end, the mention of Butch and Sundance. It was a perfect scene.

  • The fact that Mary had taken out something like 7 hunters but couldn’t kill Jody Mills. I <3 Jody so hard.

  • Dean’s “you got this” speech to Sam about leading the charge to take out the BMoL base. Especially the, “C’mere,” command where they stepped into the mutual hug after Dean said he was staying behind. That little command had me rubbing my heart. As did the, “You come back,” tag to his command.

  • The whole scene with Dean talking to Mary inside her mind after he realized she was choosing to stay safe in her make-believe, memory world. The moment he said, “I hate you,” I felt my breath catch. And then when he listed all the reasons why, I came dangerously close to mimicking those big ol’ tears that were running down his face. And then the “I love you,” chaser he tagged on just because she was his mom, I just…. *sniff* And don’t get me started on the fact that all the reasons he ‘hated’ her were because of what her choice had done to Sam. He didn’t once mention himself—the years he spent alone and scared, the fact that he went to both Hell and Purgatory and became a demon, the people he'd had to kill, the people he'd lost, the times he’d nearly died, or felt enough pain he wanted to. He didn’t bring any of that up, and it made me hurt for him more.

  • The Winchester family hug. I mean, come on. You can’t tell me that didn’t grab some of your heartstrings right there. *sniff again*

Liked

  • Dean’s John McClain impression with the grenade launcher. And the fact that he royally messed up his knee (what? I’m a h/c junkie…give me a break) with that explosion.

  • The ‘bitch’ and ‘jerk’ farewell before Sam took off with his Hunter Squad.

  • Alex’s “kick it in the ass” good luck wish to Jody.

  • The super-fast way Dean handcuffed Lady Whatshername to the table before she put him under to try to save his mom.

  • The fact that Lady Whatshername was killed by Ketch—I know, it sounds sadistic, but her story was done, she really needed to die after what she’d done to them (despite the fact that she reminded us she was a mother there at the end), and I didn’t want it to be one of the boys. It needed to be one of her own.

  • The entire fight between Dean and Ketch—that was a full-on brawl, ya’ll.

  • The fact that Mary saved Dean and killed Ketch (he needed to die, too).

  • Sam taking a ‘pass’ at having the BMoLs help with Lucifer and Jody shooting the boss lady. Done and done.

Not So Much

  • Walt and Roy being two of the Hunter Squad and Dean and Sam being all 'bygones' with them. I mean, huh? What happened to I’m gonna come back and I’m gonna be pissed? I know I said they were forgiving, but damn.

  • Basically anything to do with Lucifer—I’m just kind of over him.

12.23 – All Along the Watchtower

Loved


  • All three Winchesters working together—and Mary and Dean’s simultaneous, “Seriously?” when Sam stopped Dean from killing Crowley.

  • Kelly’s frustration with trying to put the Ikea-like crib together. I feel your pain, sister. Truly.

  • Having Alt!Bobby show up in that Mad Max Earth where the boys had never been born. I did not see that coming—had no clue even from social media. So that was well played. I have to admit when I saw the boots of the guy who saved Cas, I was hoping for John Winchester…but it makes sense that it would be Bobby because in an alt reality like that, John would never have become a hunter.

Liked

  • Dean still in pain and limping from his grenade launcher wound…and Cas noticing and healing him. I mean, I kinda liked that he healed him. *shifty-eyes*

  • Crowley, full stop. I’ve always had a soft spot for this demon, I can’t explain it. I liked that he made a ‘deal’ with them to help stop all of this, that he admitted they were in this pickle because he’d wanted to win, got to them even when they’d demon-knifed him to the table, played his part in the whole spell/trap thing, and ultimately took the biggest hit for the team ever by sacrificing his life for the sake of the spell. This was the climax of Crowley's book, “How a Demon Becomes a Hero: The Long and Twisted Path.”

  • The moment both brothers took off running around the house when facing off with Lucifer. I know it was part of their plan, but it was timed so well that it got a laugh out of me.

  • The last shot of “Jack” huddled in the corner…and the fact that he was a half-grown child, not an infant. Made the glowing eyes and weird Peter Pan grin that much creepier.

Not So Much

  • Gonna start with the biggest one: Cas’s death. I’m not opposed to main characters dying—I mean, both Winchesters have a few times, so…I’m kind of immune to it. But I’m totally over seemingly pointless deaths that appear designed simply to rip our hearts out and leave us gaping at the screen. It seemed contrived that there would be enough time between spell completion and the space/time tear-healing that Cas was able to go through, stab Lucifer (but not kill him because he’s the Energizer Angel), get back out and get himself stabbed – not to mention having Mary beat up Lucifer with her magic brass knuckles and then the tear closes. Cas’ death was sudden, leaving us no time to really even react, and felt wasted. All it really did was gut Dean (and Sam) even further after just watching their mother get hauled through a tear in the space/time continuum. While I do think Cas’ storyline had kind of tapered out over this season, there had better be some kind of emotional payoff in S13 for this death after they had us so invested in him.

  • Dean able to stand and run out of the tear after the beat-down Lucifer gave him. I mean, that was vicious and looked like one of those kick/stomps broke things and he’s still able to get up?? If I ruled the world, I would have had Sam have to literally haul him up, arm across shoulder, and drag him out of there so that Mary’s defense would have been more necessary and less “I have something to prove,” and Sam running inside to see what happened with the Nephilim would have left a truly beaten Dean sitting next to the shadow of Castiel’s wings.

And I’ll say this blanket observation—99.9% of the time, no one stays dead forever on Supernatural. With a few exceptions—Ellen and Jo, Rufus, Benny—somehow, there always seems to be a chance for a return in some form or fashion, even if it’s as a ghost, a memory, a dream, or an alternate reality. So, I don’t think this is the last time we’ll see Cas. Or Crowley, for that matter. I just hope they are able to give us the emotional pay-off for Cas next season that a character of that magnitude deserves.

So what are we left with? The BMoLs Stateside are done—and their base of operations is blown up (though, anyone else think it might have been a good idea to grab some of those weapons before obliterating it?)—so we don’t have to worry about them…but the “old guys” or whatever across the pond could prove to be problematic. The bunker has a giant hole in it, so not sure if that’s still a viable, warded safe zone any more.

Lucifer is stuck in the Thunderdome, so yay. But Mary’s there, too, which, not yay. So, some of next year’s storyline will inevitably be figuring out how to save their mom from being one of the figures impaled on those weird metal spires.

Crowley and Rowena are both gone, so no more “Hello, Boys,” popping out of nowhere—I’m really going to miss that—and no ‘in’ with the underworld. Oh, and there’s probably going to be a power vacuum in Hell with both the King and Lucifer AWOL. So, there’s that. Castiel is dead for no good reason, Dean was beaten half to death by Lucifer, Kelly is dead, and Sam is in the same room with man-child Jack, son of the Devil himself.

This year’s cliffhanger is actually one I could see going somewhere next season. I might actually be looking forward to what they do. (Aside from the animation/Scooby Doo crossover. Just…no. I mean, puppets didn’t work for me with Angel, cartoons aren’t going to work for me with Supernatural.)

Bottom line for me is that these brothers keep me coming back for more. Every episode where they were engaged and connected was entertaining. Dean’s tears trigger my tears and Sam can give a pretty great Rudy-esque, we can take these guys speech when he knows his brother has his back. After twelve years of stories, they keep showing us that they still have it in them to be original (on occasion), entertaining, and emotional. Not a bad way to keep folks hooked.

I hope you have a good hiatus. And thanks for reading.

Comments

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mdlaw
May. 20th, 2017 03:54 am (UTC)
I'm so excited to see this. I've missed them and you. m :)
gaelicspirit
May. 20th, 2017 06:32 pm (UTC)
*happy grin* Hi back!! I've missed you, too! :) :)
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borgmama1of5
May. 20th, 2017 05:09 am (UTC)
So glad you had the time and energy to grace us with a ramble for the season! Like you, I'm in it for as long as it lasts! So here is my ramble-y reaction to your ramble :)

He didn’t once mention himself—the years he spent alone and scared, the fact that he went to both Hell and Purgatory and became a demon, the people he'd had to kill, the people he'd lost, the times he’d nearly died, or felt enough pain he wanted to.

This! Dean did mention himself but only in terms that he had to be father and mother to Sam and he couldn't--but not a word about what he had to suffer...oh Dean...

I need to watch the closing of the rift scene again to see if it makes more sense the second time around. Because I can't for the life of me figure out why Cas rushed through the rift at Lucifer with an angel blade when Crowley had just sacrificed himself to close it. Distraction to cover the time lag? I just don't know...

His actual death didn't stun me as much as it probably should have. I think the writers had used up all the permutations of Cas. The problem with having an angel on speed dial is that he can fix anything so nothing the boys face is a threat if all they have to do is call him...over 8 years he kept having to be depowered somehow. This season when he made his decision to save the baby felt like a rerun of his decision to absorb the souls from Purgatory, and that went so well...so I was okay saying farewell to his character. Devastated for Dean!--but not crying on my own...

Ah, Mary...I knew you were a goner as soon as you started to reconcile with your boys a couple eps before the finale. Although I was pleasantly surprised that she's not actually dead, just in an alternate universe...with one very pissed-off Lucifer looking at her...In my head canon, AU Bobby was watching and whisked her away while Lucifer was still disoriented...

And your reaction to her storyline is one of the most nuanced--and honest--reactions I have seen. Many fans were unhappy with her throughout the season, but like you, I saw it as her struggle and confusion over finding herself in the bizarre situation of having instant-adult sons and not understanding how to be their mother now.

I did appreciate Crowley's death, especially after his speech about how he hated running hell. It actually retroactively made the de-scarifying of hell and demons of the last few seasons make sense. Like Metatron, his final redemption arc made me appreciate his character when all I've ever felt before was why haven't the Winchesters killed him yet?

Sam leading the hunters...Dean saving his mom...both brothers 100% with the other--all very satisfying!

Wouldn't it make a cool season 13 arc if the boys are able to get the nephilim to reopen the portal and they spend several episodes in that alternative universe meeting au versions of characters that we know and love (and that most of are already dead?)

gaelicspirit
May. 25th, 2017 07:27 pm (UTC)
Hi you!! :)

I can't for the life of me figure out why Cas rushed through the rift at Lucifer with an angel blade when Crowley had just sacrificed himself to close it.

Totally agree. Did you rewatch? And did it make sense? Because it didn't to me. :/

Thanks for your comments about my reaction to Mary. Her addition intrigued me.

Wouldn't it make a cool season 13 arc if the boys are able to get the nephilim to reopen the portal and they spend several episodes in that alternative universe meeting au versions of characters that we know and love (and that most of are already dead?)

YES! That would be very entertaining, I agree. :)

Thank you for reading and replying.
digitalwave
May. 20th, 2017 06:15 am (UTC)
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I've really missed reading your rambles. :)
gaelicspirit
May. 25th, 2017 07:30 pm (UTC)
Thank YOU so much for coming by and reading! :) Have a good hiatus!
milly_gal
May. 20th, 2017 06:17 am (UTC)
So very glad you had the time and energy to do this, I have MISSED these and you ♥

I haven't really got anything to add other than Holy MOLY was that intense!!! As always you have a way with words that blows my mind - thank you ♥
gaelicspirit
May. 25th, 2017 07:55 pm (UTC)
I'm very happy to see your reply--it's great to hear from you again! :)
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jennygeee
May. 20th, 2017 06:19 am (UTC)
I am so very happy and excited to see this that I had to just let you know before I read it, I won't have time until later today but YAY!!! something to really look forward to!

btw I loved both episodes!

see you later xoxo
jennygeee
May. 21st, 2017 10:40 pm (UTC)
I cannot tell you how happy it made me to see your Ramble, oh how I have missed them, they always helped me with things I had missed, probably due to being a Brit, but with your Rambles I didn’t have to worry about anything I didn’t understand because you always explained everything perfectly, so thank you so much for this and thank you for the all the ones that came before. I know I am not the only one who has missed these weekly Rambles but on the other hand I can totally understand why you had to stop doing them, I’m just pleased you didn’t stop watching the show.

”Dean able to stand and run out of the tear after the beat-down Lucifer gave him. I mean, that was vicious and looked like one of those kick/stomps broke things and he’s still able to get up?? If I ruled the world, I would have had Sam have to literally haul him up, arm across shoulder, and drag him out of there so that Mary’s defense would have been more necessary and less “I have something to prove,” and Sam running inside to see what happened with the Nephilim would have left a truly beaten Dean sitting next to the shadow of Castiel’s wings.” THIS is why you should be writing for the show!!!! This is why I love your fiction and that I am so very sad you no longer write SPN fic :(

Regarding Castel’s and Crowley’s deaths – I was more saddened by Crowley’s than by Castiel’s – I realise that Cas will more than likely return next season but I don’t see how Crowley can, but as you say, anything is possible on SPN. I think I have had enough of Cas now, he is too convenient, always there to heal and to put things right, it takes away the impact of any injury or death. I will miss Crowley though, I also had a soft spot for him and loved that he sacrificed himself at the end. I was saddened by Rowena’s death, more so that it happened off screen so she didn’t even get a proper death scene, I think she deserved more than that. I am not interested in Lucifer whatsoever and I HATED every scene with Crowley and Lucifer.

I loved the fact that Dean’s knee was injured and that it carried on for 2 episodes, most unusual with our show, but of course that was only so that Cas could heal him.

It was lovely to see Bobby again (I had no idea that was going to happen) and to see what the world would have been like without Sam and Dean. If they get to open up the tear again and are able to visit this alternate reality they could explore more of this world. I'm not totally sure how I feel about that to be honest because although I cannot see them leaving Mary there, if they do manage to revisit this barren land that would mean that Lucifer would probably return and I could really do without that!

LOVED the hugs, not one but two hugs!!

They definitely saved the best two episodes for last, now we have a long wait for Season 13 ( I have a wedding to help plan before then so I know I’ll be busy :) ).

Hope you are all keeping well and once again thank you so much for this, makes me realise how much I have missed them.
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(Anonymous)
May. 20th, 2017 07:26 am (UTC)
Maz here ...Ooh I needed this!
Oh Amanda, THANK YOU SO MUCH for finding the time to Ramble again. It feels like a big old comfort blanket of reassurance to wrap around myself. As always, you reflect everything I felt about the season and the finale (and the show). With no one near to discuss it in depth with, I really do relish your always well considered take - the hysteria on some forums winds me up horribly, even though those guys are clearly hugely devoted fans too. You put things in perspective for me, so...*hugs* :)

My own initial reactions followed all the same lines as yours. Personally, I'm thrilled Rowena is gone. Crowley too. Both have brought too much silliness to the show for my liking. Cas's loss is heartbreaking but I don't actually believe it (and isn't that a major problem with this show now?) so I'm not mourning....oh but Dean kneeling by his body was such a beautiful image wasn't it!
I really admired Mary's arc and Jensen Ackles scenes with her were so powerful, so in character in so many ways, I had tears too.
The brotherliness of this season should be celebrated & I think the writers finally know it.
I'm hopeful there could be huge plot potential in returning to the 'other world', if only because it is so bleak and basic and violent and I want to see the boys in there and it would make up for the huge disappointment that the show left Purgatory storylines woefully underused.

Gaelic, thank you again for sharing your thoughts. It really does increase my enjoyment of this show that we all love.

Mary
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gaelicspirit
May. 25th, 2017 08:55 pm (UTC)
Re: Maz here ...Ooh I needed this!
Well, thank you for pushing me to write this up. :) You know I'd do (almost) anything (writing-wise) for you.

I really admired Mary's arc and Jensen Ackles scenes with her were so powerful, so in character in so many ways, I had tears too.

Right??

Thank you so much for reading and taking time to comment. Miss you, my friend!
qultng1
May. 20th, 2017 12:59 pm (UTC)
Hey there! Glad to see you back here, altho I understand why you had to give it up. I had to give up reading for the same reason. Life is what happens when you're making other plans.

As usual, I had mostly the same reactions that you did. The "come here", "come back" and "you got this" just about did me in. That's what I want to see. *sigh*

Bobby's sudden appearance had me squealing and the Hubs asking if I was okay. I hope, hope, hope, hope, hope that he makes appearances next season. LOVE me some Bobby!

I've seen several fist fights between men and women this season in several different shows and strangely enjoy them. I guess it shows that women can be just as tough or something. Nobody deserves a beat down more than Lucifer.

The only reason I tolerate Lucifer is because of Mark Pelegrino. I love anything he does. :D

I have high hopes for next season and am looking forward to it.
gaelicspirit
May. 25th, 2017 08:57 pm (UTC)
Bobby's sudden appearance had me squealing and the Hubs asking if I was okay. I hope, hope, hope, hope, hope that he makes appearances next season. LOVE me some Bobby!

:D I totally agree!

I used to be okay with Mark Pelegrino, but he went from menacing and dangerous to sad and misunderstood to just goofy so I'm not really sure I'd complain if we didn't see him as Lucifer again. We'll have to see.

I have high hopes for next season and am looking forward to it.

Same here!! Thanks so much for reading and replying.
luvdeananddamon
May. 20th, 2017 07:25 pm (UTC)
So happy you found the time to write this! I've really missed them this season, but I totally get why you had to stop.

It's been a tough season. I loved that the boys were on the same page, but there was a lot lacking this season. Like you mentioned, it was hard to find some positive in some of the episodes. I would find myself distracted sometimes which didn't happen before. I guess I didn't like the Winchester lite eps much either.

But, I am here to the end! And it's nice to find someone else not excited by the Scooby Doo thing too!!

Take care!!
gaelicspirit
May. 25th, 2017 08:59 pm (UTC)
I loved that the boys were on the same page, but there was a lot lacking this season.

Yep.

And it's nice to find someone else not excited by the Scooby Doo thing too!!

Right?? I was honestly surprised to see so many people looking forward to it! That's a clear example of how people don't watch this for the same reason.

Thank you so much for reading and taking time to reply!
jj1564
May. 21st, 2017 12:11 am (UTC)
Hello! It's so great to see you rambling again! I'm pleased you're still watching the show, and it's understandable that with your busy RL you don't have time to do as much online.

I agree with most of what you said here about S12, I didn't much like the BMoL storyline, and preferred episodes that had more screen time for Sam and Dean, especially Regarding Dean.

jensen was amazing in Regarding Dean and in 12.22, too. It struck me on the second viewing that his whole focus when speaking to his Mom was Sam, so I was pleased to see you picked up on that, too "...all the reasons he ‘hated’ her were because of what her choice had done to Sam. He didn’t once mention himself..." That's typical of Dean to always put Sam first, and so sad too.

It was so good to read your ramble!
gaelicspirit
May. 25th, 2017 11:57 pm (UTC)
*heart eyes at your icon*

jensen was amazing in Regarding Dean

Yes! I'd actually forgotten about that when I wrote the Ramble, but that was fantastic. I will never forget that mirror scene.

Thank you so much for taking time wo read and reply. :)

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thruterryseyes
May. 21st, 2017 01:23 am (UTC)
FINALLY got to see the second half. Personally I don't beleive anyone is dead till they go a whole season and don't show up.
I liked the first half better but the second had moments. the scene where they talked about their blaze of glory in the first one was great. When Dean limped in with his blasted up knee i told my husband fan girls everywhere just went nuts and they carried ON with it!!!
I was so pissed when Cas healed him!!! I wanted him to limp thru the rest of his show life.
I had the same thought about Jody managing to do what no one else could with Mary.And when she came up and touched dean and he grabbed her hand. Loved it.
I have no idea what next year will bring but I also don't care. As long the two of them are init I'll watch. If Crowley is truly dead I'm really gonna miss him tho. Indifferent about Castiel, I only care about the effect he has on Dean.

Amusing side note tho: I was putting some kid into the computer and his name was Castenada. I typed in Castiel.
gaelicspirit
May. 31st, 2017 04:57 pm (UTC)
Hey you. I swear it takes me half of forever to carve out time to reply to things. This and story reviews. I'm the worst. :(

I was so pissed when Cas healed him!!! I wanted him to limp thru the rest of his show life.

And have to wear that knee brace you put in a manip for a story one time. In fact...I think there's an AU one-shot in there somewhere....

As long the two of them are init I'll watch.

Ditto. And ditto for missing Crowley more than Cas. Mostly b/c I don't believe they'll keep Cas dead.

talk soon.
lausbub0402
May. 21st, 2017 09:22 am (UTC)

Seeing and reading your ramble this morning made my day. Thank you so much for taking the time and putting it in amazing words once again.
I missed your rambles so much but I totally understand your reasons. Same here, but I manage to always find some time to watch the episodes sooner or later and I will do so for season 13 too, I just can't quit ;-)
Amen to all your points listed, as always I agree with EVERY SINGLE WORD. Had the same feelings about this season and the last 2 episodes made the h/c Deangirl in me kinda happy.
Take care and here's hoping that there will be some more rambles from you in the future and if it's "only" for the closing of season 13 I will be more than happy.

gaelicspirit
May. 31st, 2017 05:01 pm (UTC)
Thank YOU for reading and taking time to reply!

Let's see how S13 (GAH! THIRTEEN!!) plays out...there may another Ramble in me. :)

Thanks again!
freya922
May. 21st, 2017 01:23 pm (UTC)

I was so delighted to find this; I've been AWOL, too, drowning in RL challenges. (Crazy job, literally every immediate family member in the midst of some med or psych condition, and distraught since the election...) it's a miracle I peeked at LJ at just the moment this appeared. Love your Rambles, and especially appreciated this one. There was so much to process from the entire season and the dual finales. You always help me do that. :)

When Mary returned I feared things could turn maudlin, and fast. It was daring of them to go the direction they did, actually imagining what this scenario would really be like. All that that scene with Dean's "I hate you" evoked for you shows how well they understood ad realized the potential of that.

I hated that Rowena died offscreen, and I was relieved as hell that Jody didn't die... I was worried there for a min.

Anyway, thanks for your Ramble and may RL let up on you!

gaelicspirit
May. 31st, 2017 06:54 pm (UTC)
Hi there! It's been so long--I'm happy you came by to read and post a comment. :)

and distraught since the election

Oh, my, but I understand this. On so many levels. Sigh.

I hated that Rowena died offscreen, and I was relieved as hell that Jody didn't die... I was worried there for a min.

Agreed on both counts! :)
impala1967
May. 22nd, 2017 07:34 am (UTC)
awww man I liked the puppet Angel episode :)

This season for me goes the same way as Gambles did, never to be rewatched .... in fact I haven't even watched the last 6 or so and what I have seen has left me wanting.

I am thinking that maybe SPN has run its course, well it actually did that a few seasons ago , maybe 7 seasons ago. yes thee have been awesome episodes and great seasons since Kripke left but this season has left me empty.

I think they need to let this go and give the J's a chance to get into some awesome movies i.e maybe a Marvel movie or 3.

But awesome to see you back with a ramble. I am hardly ever on LJ any more but I came back to read you. Hope all is great in the RW for you and your little family.

J.
gaelicspirit
May. 31st, 2017 07:03 pm (UTC)
Haha! You liked the puppet Angel episode, really! LOL! That's so funny. :)

I am thinking that maybe SPN has run its course, well it actually did that a few seasons ago , maybe 7 seasons ago. yes there have been awesome episodes and great seasons since Kripke left but this season has left me empty.

I can completely understand that. Dean is the only reason I watch, but he'll keep me coming back until the literal end. Which...maybe 13 is their lucky number? Because, yeah, I'd watch Jensen in a Marvel movie! :)

I'm hardly here myself, but I'm really glad to see you. And I wish you the best as well--anytime I see your name it makes me smile.
madebyme_x
May. 22nd, 2017 05:02 pm (UTC)
It's lovely to see you here, and thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Like you say it was a bit of a hit and miss season and while I think they missed some opportunities, 12.22 was a big pay off for me, so I'm happily living off the joy of that for the time being. There were moments of 12.23 that I loved, and some not so much (I too am getting tired of Lucifer (although thrilled to have MP back) I love the alternate reality and the possibility of seeing old characters return but with differences, and I love the mystery of Jack and the whole nature/nurture debate of whether he'll be good or bad.

Are Crowley and Cas both 100% dead? I'm not sure, it seems to me that one death sort of cancelled out the power of the other. For the moment my money is on one of them returning (maybe Cas considering his connection to Jack? *shrugs*)

But yes, I'm looking forward to more and a whole summer of fic and ideas and rewatches. Thank you again :)
gaelicspirit
May. 31st, 2017 07:07 pm (UTC)
I love the alternate reality and the possibility of seeing old characters return but with differences, and I love the mystery of Jack and the whole nature/nurture debate of whether he'll be good or bad.

Yeah, there are definitely some possibilities set up for next season. :)

Thanks so much for coming by and commenting -- it's really good to see you.
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