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SQUEE for DISH.

The boys were back where they belonged tonight, and boy did they look pretty, even if Kripke is a flippin’ evil genius with the reveals and timing of this episode.

There is something about Sam’s grin that gets me. Not in the same way that Dean’s does. Not at all. Dean’s alternately breaks my heart and curls my toes. Sam’s… has me swallowing hard and pulling into myself to protect my heart from his truth.

Good gracious this is an effing scary game of chess.


“Strippers, Sammy, strippers…an actual case involving strippers. Finally.”

I love Dean.

Plus? I don’t think I’ll ever look at my daughter’s Disney collection quite the same way. I mean, seriously, Jasmine? Aurora? Ariel? BELLE? Good grief. Throw in a flying carpet and some singing mice and you have the pervert’s version of the classic fairy tale. Heh. Someone on that writing team has a twisted sense of humor. *pets them*

Okay, I was all over the board with emotions in this one. I actually guffawed at one point, but mostly, I felt my eyes go dry as I stared at my TV, unable to tear my eyes away. And? I spoke harshly at the TV a lot. I couldn’t yell because the baby was asleep, but she was the only thing that stopped me because JeeeZUS.

I have to say they caught me up once more in the Red Herring. My gut led me right, but I was swayed by the convincing storytelling and the suspicions of Dean, ‘cause I’d follow him anywhere. Couple of random things before I dive into the deep end of my thoughts. I have three sisters and a brother, all younger. We are all HIGHLY emotional and the Irish in us lends itself to some pretty impressive screaming matches. Growing up, we could easily ignore each other and move around each other and let whatever injustices we perceived go unchecked for months, until something triggered us – a comment, a look, the unchecked borrowing of another’s jeans – and the fur would FLY.

Knock-down, drag-out, I mean, seriously, folks, it was impressively scary. And things were said that we actually really meant, way down deep inside where we don’t want anyone to actually look, but we wouldn’t have said them quite that way, with quite that force, in quite that tone had we not been so angry. But it didn’t make them any less true. And I think that’s what always hurt the worst.

I have to admit that while I like to pride myself in being able to see both sides, and admire both brothers for their unique qualities that they bring to this partnership, I truly felt for Dean in this one. The only thing I could see through Sam’s eyes was the possibility of feeling repressed for years… but I couldn’t really relate to him the same as I found myself relating to Dean. His eyes… they just look… broken.

The chess match that we’ve been watching this season kicked up a notch, and my jaw is actually sore from holding it so tense through this epi. I posted some thinky thoughts here the other day, and I’m soooo hoping that when it comes time for check mate, the brothers are standing side-by-side, looking in the same direction, and not facing each other.

Alright, back to the show. The opening murder scene was shocking, but you saw it coming the minute hubby came home late and wifey was beating the meat. Um, so to speak. With that big meet pounder thingy just laying out there, I watched their whole argument with my eyes squinted just waiting for it. GORE!

Dean sleeping is a beautiful thing. I’m sorry, but it is. I actually sighed when we saw him, relaxing into the couch and searching for the pause button just to hold that image a moment longer. Dean is woken by a passing semi and hears Sam on the phone, obviously suspicious, and tries to listen. When Sam hangs up, Dean fakes sleep rather well as Sam “wakes” him with news of their next hunt. And I think “gank” might be their new favorite word.

This time, suits equaled lawyers and not FBI as they visited the murdering husband in jail to try to get the whole story. His explanation? “I killed my wife because she made plans without asking me.” Yipe. My husband better not ever meet a siren, or I’m toast. What I liked about this scene is that it showed the boys did some previous investigative work pulling the credit card receipt and showing that hubster dropped 9 G’s at a strip club. Usually you get the impression that they go in somewhat blind and look for the answers. This time at least, they’d done a bit of homework. Nicely done.

“Dude. Her name was Jasmine.” *laugh* Did I mention that I loved Dean?

The minute Special Agent Sam Styles (heh) saw the doc, I suspected her. I did! She was too… I don’t know, cool. All “fun night, rough morning.” She was Ruby, just not demonified. She was everything Jessica wasn’t, and everything the New Sam, the post-losing-his-brother-to-Hell-Hounds Sam, the I-can-exorcise-with-my-mind-and-do-something-else-powerful-that-noone-knows-about Sam would be attracted to.

I didn’t like her.

Also, was Oxycotin the thing that Rush Limbaugh was addicted to? Or am I totally insane? Wait, don’t answer that 2nd question. Sam’s flirty, way-too-cute for his own good grin reeled the doc in hook line and sinker. By the time Agent Dean Murdock showed up, she was a goner. And the way Sam was giving her the eye, I couldn’t blame her. The boy was all chin-dropped, soft-eyed, small-smile… if he did it for me, that would work easily. Dean’s “you totally C-blocked me” had me chuckling. He can’t have all the women, poor lad.

So, the spell made the siren show up as someone “perfect—everything they want.” And if I didn’t have a problem with my body image before? Knowing that and seeing all these “exotic dancers” spinning around their poles sure helped that plummet. Lordy. Okay, so as per usual, Bobby comes through with a theory when Dean’s chat with the “ain’t my problem” manager comes up empty: sirens. This made me smirk a bit. I had a slightly different take on how sirens appeared and acted in Hear No Evil.

I have to say, though, I LOVED that Dean came back to Sam with a “Sirens as in Greek mythology? The Odyssey? Hey, I read.” Atta boy! Apparently siren’s read minds and become what you want. This little tidbit just makes me even more sad about the ending of this epi.

Oh, the double entandres in this epi… The siren’s relief at seeing Lenny: “I thought you’d never come.” *laugh*

So, we have another example of a siren-related death, only this time, it’s not a husband/wife, it’s a sick mother/caring son. Showing that it’s not just a romantic relationship that the siren wants to demolish, but the person its victim cares about most. Plus, we get to see an image of the SPN-version of a siren and it reminded me of something on an episode of the X-files – that sewer monster thing? Anyone?

Sam’s out, and Dean’s looking through books, unable to help himself as he stares at Sam’s forgotten cell phone. He dials a number that doesn’t have a name attached to it in Sam’s recent calls menu and Ruby answers. Dean hastily hangs up, but not before the gutted expression of betrayal ghosts his face. When Sam returns, it’s all “everything is fine, business as usual” but the tension between the two of them is building. Bobby calls with info, saying that what he’s found is “shockingly a little vague.” Heh. I love Bobby.

They have to use a “bronze dagger covered with the blood of a sailor under the spell of the song.” Well, right then, you knew how it was going to go down, but seeing it played out was so. Very. Painful.

They determine that the siren infects its victims with a supernatural STD (HA!) and Bobby cautions them that the siren will “wrap you in knots before you know what hits you…” It’s almost as if he’s either talking from experience or fear. And if it’s fear, it’s as if he’s trying to tell them remember who you are, and how much you matter to each other; don’t blame yourselves, don’t blame each other, just get through this.

Total aside – this is the 2nd time in my memory that they’ve had to use bronze to kill a being. The clown thingy (Rakshasa?) from the beginning of Season Two in ELAC had to be killed with a bronze dagger. And we all know that silver is a powerful anti-bad-guys metal. I wonder what gold would do?

Anyway, they run into a “real” FBI agent – Nick Monroe – when they go back to get some of the infected blood. This whole exchange between the “Agents” was fantastic – as was calling “AD Kiser” (HA!!) to sort things out. Bobby had like, what, 4? 5? Different phones? All marked for different ways he would need to answer. Have I mentioned that I love Bobby? That is one awesome touch. I wish they’d shown that before. Nicely done, show!

When the boys split up, Dean with Monroe (“I’m not doing this for you, I’m doing it for the girls!”) and Sam with Doc Kara, I suspected Monroe. He was just so… perfect! He not only knew what year the Impala was, he knew her engine. But then… we go back to Sam and Doc Kara is flirting with him hard-core and… I wavered! But then we’re back with Dean and Monroe doing shots in the strip club and Monroe knows the stats for Zeppelin’s “Nobody’s Fault But Mine” AND AC/DC’s “All Night Long.”

*Gaelic bites lip*

I should have realized when Monroe revealed the “something weird” about the flower that it was too perfect of a set up. But, I was distracted with the way that Dean eyed the Cassie-Look-Alike stripper across the room. Did you see his eyes go from “you’re not a total dick” humor to “you, me, darkness, sheets” in a second? The complete appreciation for that woman in one teensy glance sucked all the air from the room.

However, speaking of sucking the air from the room, Sam is back with Doc Kara who is flirting the ever-lovin’ pants off our boy. Pouring drinks, speaking in sultry tones, offering his Sam truth in small, easy-to-swallow doses: “Haven’t you ever been in a relationship where you really loved somebody and still kinda wanted to bash their head in?”

Uh-oh.

Sam, ever the aggressive love-makin’ man, answers her “have fun, no regrets, live life like there’s no tomorrow” salute by pressing her against the levelor blinds while removing that oh-so-cumbersome shirt. Holy. Crap. That boy has a NICE back. I think I squeaked a bit. The thing that worries me now that I know she wasn’t who I thought she was at that time is that she was totally speaking his language.

She may not have been the siren, but she was telling him exactly what he wanted to hear. Her “one day I looked up and I was living with a stranger” could have been pulled from his mouth, and you can see it tearing him apart from the inside out. Especially when we’re being led to believe that Doc Kara is the siren based on Monroe’s reveal about the hyacinth, Dean’s phone call to Sam and his “did you sleep with her? Holy crap, you did!” Dean calls Bobby saying that Sam was in trouble with such assertion in his voice that I didn’t even need to see Sam throwing the cell phone in frustrated, impotent anger, then staring at his reflection in the mirror with barely-suppressed rage to believe it.

Only now? I replay that in my head and I realize that Sam’s response to Dean certainty wasn’t a siren’s spell, it was the fact that the Doc was right and he hated himself for that fact. And, maybe in that moment, he hated Dean for saying “Madison, Ruby, Kara, what is it with you and banging monsters?”

Dean calls Monroe for help, and I actually find myself liking the FBI agent a little bit – especially when he calls Doc Kara “Dr. Quinn” (very Dean-like with the nickname) and says “You sure about that ‘cause it sounds like crazy on toast.” I should have known. When Dean admits that being trusted on his word was “nice to hear,” my heart sank.

Dean shares his flask with Monroe, only to find out one swallow too late that the siren’s poison is spread through saliva. And this siren? Wants Dean to get Sam out of the way so that they could be brothers. *gulp*

When Sam shows up in the hotel room to see Monroe sitting on the bed, I curled up in a ball and barely blinked. Dean holding Sam tight with a knife to his throat was bad, but having the siren tell Sam that it gave Dean what he needed – “You. A little brother that looked up to him. That he could trust.” – just had me caving in on myself. I wanted to watch this objectively, to see what I knew was coming from both sides, but I couldn’t help it – I truly felt for Dean and Sam honestly scared me. The siren basically hawked a lugie on Sam (gack), infecting him, and it was ON.

Dean: “When did it happen? When I was in Hell? Or when I was looking right at you? The Sam I knew is gone. (Gaelic’s breath hitches.) It’s not the demon blood or the psychic crap. It’s the little stuff – the lies, the secrets. You’re hiding things from me. We used to be in this together. We used to have each other’s backs.”

Oh, God, they are really going to kill me.

Sam: “You’re too weak to go after Lillith. You’re holding me back. (Ouch, Sam!) I’m a better hunter than you – stronger, smarter. I can take out demons you’re too scared to go near. You’re too busy sitting around feeling sorry for yourself, whining about all the souls you tortured in Hell. Boo-hoo.”

Here’s the thing. I heard Dean say “don’t go, come back to me” and I heard Sam say “I’m already gone.” And I wanted to grab the both by the scruff of the neck, like I used to do with my warring siblings, and shake them. Hard. This may be a spell talking, but the words? They came from somewhere real. And it’s those sentiments that they have to ultimately decide what they’re going to do about, because it’s those words, those feelings that’s going to turn them in the same direction, or have them face off again. This time for real.

The fight is vicious. More so than the one in “Skin” because it’s not a shapeshifter. It may be fueled by a spell, but they were hurting and lashing out and wanted to hurt one another because sometimes when you get to the end of your rope and the one that’s supposed to be there to catch you is walking away, you fight or fall. Sam is beating the ever-lovin’ crap out of Dean for a bit until Dean steps back to catch his breath and shoves his brother through the motel room door.

Sam lays dazed for a moment while Dean grabs the fire axe from the hallway demanding “tell me again how weak I am, Sam. How I hold you back.” Siren/Monroe is there telling Dean to “do it for him” and for just one split second I had a moment of hope that Dean would be able to overcome the spell and when he swung the axe it would be at the siren and not his brother.
But, Bobby saved the day, stabbing Dean with a bronze dagger and, over Sam’s protests, throwing it at the retreating siren, killing it. The boys come back to themselves, staring at each other ashamed and confused.

The end has us at the cars with Bobby giving them soda. Hee. I loved that little touch. His admonishment that one phone call would have told them that Agent Monroe wasn’t real was pure Bobby. But his assurance that “sirens are nasty things—that it got to you, no reason to feel bad” was more something a father might say. I loved that subtle reminder that they’re family, and whatever was said, while not forgotten, should be kept in context.

But it won’t be.

How can it? This isn’t the first time that Sam, while under the influence, has called Dean out for being ‘weak.’ In Asylum, he did the same thing, afterwards assuring Dean that he didn’t mean it. Dean’s words to Sam under the siren’s spell had been more of a plea than an accusation. It seems that Sam really believes that he’s better than Dean. And maybe, in some ways, he is superior. Strength, smarts, power. But I don’t think that his power is going to be the thing that saves them. After all, the meek inherit the Earth. I think they need to remember what Dean said: that they used to be in it together, they used to have each other’s backs.

And it’s not enough to stop a spell or kill a demon or salt and burn a spirit together. It’s not enough to work on the same project. They have to return to being partners again. They have to trust each other again. Or being brothers isn’t going to be enough to save them.

I hate that we have to wait three weeks to see how the next chess piece is moved.>

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marta_kent
Feb. 6th, 2009 06:52 am (UTC)
Thank you for your thoughts! Haven't seen 414 yet, so I read it later, ok? But I'm so appreciate for your work and for sharing, your reviews are the best <3
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:10 pm (UTC)
Hey you! I'm just getting around to replying (bad Gaelic), but I hope you enjoy the epi when you get to watch. And I'd love to hear your thoughts! I enjoyed your email that you sent after you saw 4X13. :)

Thanks for posting these on your site. I really appreciate it.
novembersguest
Feb. 6th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC)
Someone has proposed that maybe Sam's cruelness to Dean in this ep was a result of the demon blood trying to take over (like its mutating him), showing how it is slowly eating away his humanity. I thought that seemed plausible.

I mean, I totally agree, I think Sam, God love 'im, does see himself as better and smarter--its his personal sin, pride--but what he said tonight was so cruel. The things Dean said weren't cruel...you are right, they were a showing of fear, a plea to come back. But Sam's words...they were hurtful and mean.

I'm wondering if the theorists are right....
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:16 pm (UTC)
The theory of the demon blood has merit. I mean, I go back to what the dude that clobbered his wife at the beginning of the episode said. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He killed her because she made plans without consulting him.

He didn't feel taken over or like someone else was in control. He knew it.

And so that half-hearted "You know I didn't mean that stuff... it was just the siren" excuse at the end did NOT sit well with me. Sam knew. He knew exactly what he said -- just as Dean knew. And the words they used were so ver different.

And I can't help but think that the time is coming for Sam -- who is, as we know, Luke in this saga (at least in Kripke's mind) -- is going to have to make a choice. The darkside is easier, more seductive, but it's not stronger. He has to know that the powers he has, the things that Ruby is enticing him to do "for the greater good" are eating his soul away.

The Sam the turned himself inside out to try to save Dean from Hell, who felt heaps upon heaps of guilt for not being able to save every victim he saw in his death visions, would never have said those horrible things to his brother.

No matter WHAT Dean said that was cruel and unfair -- like lumping Madison into the category of 'monster.' To Dean, Madison, as a werewolf, was a monster. Black and white. Sam's the one that lives in the gray, and Sam's the one that pushed, waiting out the secrete behind Dean's nightmares, the truth of his time in Hell.

And I think throwing *that* back in his face was far worse than any flippant comment about banging monsters. I think Sam's going to have to choose. He's going to have to decide if the "power" he so easily succumbs to is worth the price of his soul.

Then again, he's the only one in the family to have not sacrificed his soul. So far.

This is going to be sooooo interesting.
lsketch42
Feb. 6th, 2009 08:30 am (UTC)
"I mean, seriously, Jasmine? Aurora? Ariel? BELLE?"

OMG HOW DID I MISS THAT! *facepalm*

"The minute Special Agent Sam Styles (heh) saw the doc, I suspected her. I did! "

I did as well. I pretty much hated her from the start, whether that was intentional or not. While I adore Jess and even liked Madison, this chick just rubbed me the wrong way.

", we get to see an image of the SPN-version of a siren and it reminded me of something on an episode of the X-files – that sewer monster thing? Anyone?"

Well, I thought X-Files this ep, but my mind went to the ep 'Genderbender'...cause this one was pretty much the exact same theme.

"Anyway, they run into a “real” FBI agent – Nick Monroe – when they go back to get some of the infected blood. "

I actually thought he was another hunter at first. No way was he FBI. Being an X-Files freak, come on...the fact that Sam and Dean didn't know their badge numbers? Hell, I still remember Mulder's to this day :P *iz sad*

The end scene on this one KILLED me though. Some of the other eps endings were kind eh for me, but that look Jensen gave when Sam asks if they're okay...Whew. Good stuff.

And am totally loving Jared's slowly-going-evil-potentially-not-100% pure Sam portrayal this season.
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC)
OMG -- I love that you remember Mulder's badge number. That is made of win. Do you, by any chance, watch the show Fringe? It's very X-filesque (plus? Josh Jackson? Grew up NICELY). I was watching last night going "this theme song is sooooo close to X-files." Made me miss it.

And am totally loving Jared's slowly-going-evil-potentially-not-100% pure Sam portrayal this season.

Ditto. I think the angst that is coming across from the dynamic of this struggle between them is totally, heartwrenchingly captivating.
jennygeee
Feb. 6th, 2009 09:53 am (UTC)
That was one amazing episode!! I'm so in awe of Eric Kripke! I love the man!

I felt my heart break for Dean, because he knows that what Sam said is how Sam feels because he knows that what he (Dean) said is how he feels - if you know what I mean. Sam was so cruel to Dean I was 'oh no'ing all the time. It makes me feel that Sam feels he was doing better when Dean wasn't there and part of me hates Sam for that. But surely that is how Dean is going to feel. Sam kept on an on trying to get Dean to confide in him what had happened in hell and now that he has he's thrown it back in his face!!!! Oh how my heart goes out to Dean he just wants his little brother back and he hasn't got him. This whole season has shown us that Sam is not the same Sam anymore, he doesn't need Dean like he did, he goes off on his own to kill the baddies.

And they are not alright, not alright at all!!!!

There is not another show ever that plays with my emotions like this show does...and I adore it!!!!

Thanks for this awesome review Gaelic.
xx
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:21 pm (UTC)
Thanks for reading, Jen! :)

I'm so with you on this show playing with emotions. Lightening will probably strike me down for this, but sometimes the hiatuses are nice if only because I know that this week I can breathe.

I know what you mean about Sam not being the same Sam. I said this up above in my response to NovembersGuest: I go back to what the dude that clobbered his wife at the beginning of the episode said. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He killed her because she made plans without consulting him.

He didn't feel taken over or like someone else was in control. He knew it.

And so that half-hearted "You know I didn't mean that stuff... it was just the siren" excuse at the end did NOT sit well with me. Sam knew. He knew exactly what he said -- just as Dean knew. And the words they used were so very different.

*sigh* Oh, boys.
ala_tariel
Feb. 6th, 2009 10:16 am (UTC)
Gaelic, you have to write a limp!Sam story based on this episode. Please?
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:23 pm (UTC)
A limp!Sam story, huh? First, I'm honored that you would request a story, so thank you for that.

I'm not sure if I'm capable of a fully limp!Sam story. And I'm also not sure you would like it, being the Sam fan that you are. But you have made me think. We have some time before the next show... if I can get Weapon and the Wound done (which may actually be possible), I'll give it a go.

But I make no guarantees.

*hides*
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apieceofcake
Feb. 6th, 2009 11:01 am (UTC)
>> and for just one split second I had a moment of hope that Dean would be able to overcome the spell and when he swung the axe it would be at the siren and not his brother.


That was what I was expecting to happen, but you've gotta love Bobby he is awesome!

It really hurt to see the boys so at odds with one another, but it's certainly interesting!

I love Sam I really do but that must have hurt Dean so much, when it was Sam asking Dean to share his experience in Hell with him and then get it thrown in his face. I think some of Sam's anger is he felt impotent to do anything about it.

Lovely review!
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:24 pm (UTC)
Hey girl! Thank you. :) I love your avi here, by the way. It's the new triumverant of hunterage... Bobby stepping in where John had been.

I love Sam I really do but that must have hurt Dean so much, when it was Sam asking Dean to share his experience in Hell with him and then get it thrown in his face.

Word to this. No one knows how to hurt you to the core quite like a sibling -- especially one that you confided your worst memory, deepest regret, and most horrendous failure to. Makes my heart hurt.
thruterryseyes
Feb. 6th, 2009 02:24 pm (UTC)
I can't believe I missed the Disney name thing but since i appear to be going deaf and Bobby will only let me turn the sound up so high i think I missed a couple of the names. I really am thick which is why i like to read these reviews. For the life of me I couldn't figure out why Bobby stabbed Dean. I loved it but i couldn't understand.

Teflon, kiddo.

The fight WAS vicious. Just about the nastiest on screen fight I've seen.
I too love the shows Bobby. And I wanted to smack both the guys. (And be slammed into the wall by someone with a beautiful back, and frankly when Sam is in Lovebeist mode. He would work just fine.

In an aside about that, I find it interesting that his and Dean's tyle of lovemaking is so different. Dean's appears to be more slow and strong, perhaps even tender as if while the woman may not matter so much, the moment does, while Sam's is wild and aggressive, like a violent release. Did you hear her laugh when he shoved her into the blinds?

or maybe that was me....

Anywho.

And one minor point of correction. The knife they used in Everybody loves a clown was made of brass. Sorry.
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:26 pm (UTC)
I told you this already, but I love that you called me kiddo. Don't ask me why. I'm quirky.

I totally agree about Sam in lovebeast mode. Write a drabble about THAT. I know you could do it.

I had to go back and rewatch (oh, the horror) to hear her laugh. But yeah, I got that. :) Heh.

I was thinking they needed a brass knife in ELAC. They didn't use one, but I was thinking that was the proposed solution. I just wonder what gold might do since we've already heard about brass and sliver... hmmm...
mtee
Feb. 6th, 2009 02:27 pm (UTC)
Great review.

I am very afraid for Sam. Even though the siren probably amplified his feelings -- you see that beginning of the "power corrupts" adage. Sam has power -he's able to kill demons and that power is starting to do things to him. His feelings of superiority, of being pulled down by "weak" Dean.

I don't think he'll go darkside as in evil - but he'll go darkside as in "I can do anything, I'm better than you" I'm sure many sci-fi shows have done eps like that. The good man gets a power and believes he is god. That would ticked off the angels big time.

Maybe that's what we need to worry about - not Sam being evil, but thinking he is a god - or godlike.
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
I don't think he'll go darkside as in evil - but he'll go darkside as in "I can do anything, I'm better than you"

Yup -- I'm with you here. Very Luke Skywalker of him (since that's who he is in Kripke's saga) to have to choose between the seductive power of the darkside and the "right way."

Maybe that's what we need to worry about - not Sam being evil, but thinking he is a god - or godlike.

Ohhh -- now THAT'S interesting. Must ponder.

Thanks for reading!
thruterryseyes
Feb. 6th, 2009 02:30 pm (UTC)
I'm correcting myself here. The knife they NEEDED in ELAC was supposed to be made of brass but he had to use a brass pipe cause they couldn't find a knife.

And when I saw the foot of the bed in the beginning my heart started to race because I KNEW they were gonna show Dean asleep. Since I was sitting between my husband and son
I couldn't groan and go OMG. But I WANTED to.

Dean's c-block comment confused me. I am familiar with the term but not in a short form and couldn't understand the reference so when I went huh, my son very kindly explained to me what it was. Embarressing.
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
Ah, see? Yeah, needed a brass knife. :)

Okay, so I laughed myself silly at the thought of Morgan explaining c-block. HAHAHAH!!
(Anonymous)
Feb. 6th, 2009 04:58 pm (UTC)
Heck, I don't even know where to start.

First, let me just say, Gaelic, you did it again. Gave me insight where I desperately needed some.

I'm going to post my somewhat coherent thoughts that I posted on another forum.

I went to bed mad as hell at Sammy last night. And that was painful as I love Sam dearly. What he said to Dean was mocking and cruel. Especially the ice cold "Boo Hoo". To try and tell Dean at the end that it was all just the siren's spell, just as it was all just Dr. Ellicott in Asylum, I imagine this would be devastating for Dean even though he says things are fine.

What Dean said was wrong too but not as cruel. (Gaelic, you said it well--Dean's words were a plea. And were essentially true.)

I found it interesting that to him the siren was a guy--a guy who shared his love for the Impala, who could talk classic rock day and night, etc. I think this shows that Dean's longing to have his brother back again. I think it shows that deep down Dean has felt that since the moment he came back Sam no longer cares for him. We certainly heard him say that in Metamorphosis. He flat out said "you don't need me anymore, you have Ruby." I think deep down he still believes that's true. (At this point, if it were ME, I think I'd be leaving simply to get away from the constant hurt of knowing I'm no longer needed.)

And last night as I lay in bed completely depressed over these boys, I couldn't help but think that maybe Dean is a little right. Is Sam happy that Dean's back? What has he done to show that he still loves Dean? He's lied from the get go. (PLEASE don't think I'm bashing Sam--I'm not--I love Sam to distraction.)

Of course, the same can be said the other way--what has Dean done to show he still loves Sam?

What really hurts is--if Ellicott and the siren were both reading deep into Sam's mind and came up with all this--what does that say about how Sam really feels about his brother?

PS: I know they were trying to make us believe that Sam was under the siren's spell after he hung up with Dean and he went into a rage and threw the phone. But at the end when we find out he wasn't under the spell at that moment, it makes me wonder then about that rage Sam felt toward Dean. What's fueling it? Has it been there all along?

As a whole, I liked the episode. Truly thought the hot doc was one of the sirens along with the guy. Didn't particularly care for her either. But DAMN Sam/Jared was HOT. God, when she was whispering in his ear...wooooo weeeeeee. What I wouldn't give to be that close to Jared. hehehe

And God love Bobby. He is just all kinds of awesome. I LOVED the line up of phones in his kitchen. LOL
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Vanessa
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:31 pm (UTC)
Hi there, Ness,

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to these! I wanted to get chapter 5 of Weapon and the Wound done and over to my beta before I indulged.

Thanks for reading and I just have to say DITTO to everything. I think one of my favorite Bobby moments was seeing him in an apron, cooking, with a line-up of phones for all occasions. HAH! That was fantastic.

I rambled a bit up in NovembersGuest's comment, so I'll spare you, but I'm with you in your worry and no judgement on Sam bashing here. We all have our favorites, but I think that 90% of the fandom would agree that neither guy is whole without the other.
debsn
Feb. 6th, 2009 05:44 pm (UTC)
Ah Gaelic, my watching of the show is not complete till I read your recap! You just hit on all the moments that I love! Dean being so excited to work a stripper case "Finally". His look at the stripper. The pain in his eyes when he knows Sam has lied. Those eyes just rip me to pieces! Like I've said before, tuen the volume off and you still know what Dean is feeling by his eyes! Jensen must have gotten away with murder growing up just by using those! I mean who could look into those and deny him anything. Not me! Where was I.....
This episode is just the begining of a very, very bumpy ride Kripke is going to take us on. I think I will be a puddle by season's end.

About the Oxycotin thing, the doctor said it was Oxytosin in their blood. A naturally released joy hormone or something like that.

And I have to mention too how much I loved having Bobby back! He is just too awesome. Love Jim Beaver!
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:32 pm (UTC)
Hi!!

I love your comment that you could mute it and still know what Dean is saying. Hee. That's made of awesome.

*is laughing at self* Okay, thanks for the clarification on Oxytocin/Oxycontin. Hee.

I hope we get more Bobby soon!! Talk to you later.
chemm80
Feb. 6th, 2009 06:04 pm (UTC)
but you saw it coming the minute hubby came home late and wifey was beating the meat.

OMG. I can't believe you totally went there. *shakes head*

And I think “gank” might be their new favorite word.

Yes. Annoying.

Dean sleeping is a beautiful thing. I’m sorry, but it is.

Had to cover my mouth to keep too much from escaping, due to 13-year-old son watching next to me.

Also, was Oxycotin the thing that Rush Limbaugh was addicted to?

You're probably thinking of Oxycontin, which is a narcotic. The show was speaking of oxytocin, which is a naturally occurring hormone partially responsible for feelings of love, caring, nurturing, etc. It's produced by the body during, pregnancy, lactation, and apparently when you fall in love. It's also what they use to cause uterine contractions when they induce labor.

But, I was distracted with the way that Dean eyed the Cassie-Look-Alike stripper across the room. Did you see his eyes go from “you’re not a total dick” humor to “you, me, darkness, sheets” in a second? The complete appreciation for that woman in one teensy glance sucked all the air from the room.

Maybe I'm off base here, but I actually thought that was a subtle little red herring moment. It made me think that girl was the siren because she looked like Cassie, who (arguably) is representative of what Dean looks for in a woman.

Here’s the thing. I heard Dean say “don’t go, come back to me” and I heard Sam say “I’m already gone.”

I know. It's horrible. And with Dean wearing his emotions so much closer to the surface this season, which I find heartbreaking in itself, that he's been stripped of so many of his defensive layers...

And I loved Bobby in this one so much, except I really didn't want him saving the boys. I really thought Dean's brotherly instinct would overcome the siren song in the end and he would wind up killing the thing with the blood he drew from Sam's neck.
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
Had to cover my mouth to keep too much from escaping, due to 13-year-old son watching next to me.

Okay, first? I just figured out how to do italics in replies. *rolls eyes at self* And second? This? Is friggin' funny to picture. Heh.


And I loved Bobby in this one so much, except I really didn't want him saving the boys. I really thought Dean's brotherly instinct would overcome the siren song in the end and he would wind up killing the thing with the blood he drew from Sam's neck.

Yeah, I'm right there with you. I soooo wanted Dean to defeat the siren, but then I realized he had that axe and they needed a brass blade. But still! It would have been cool. Never the less, I always love to see Bobby and I hope we get more of him.

jazzyirish
Feb. 6th, 2009 07:33 pm (UTC)
Great review, Gaelic. Glad the boys are back in your living room where they belong. :) This epi about killed me. And we're either on check or just a couple of moves away.

I totally agree with you about the siren influence only uncovering what is already there - not creating hostile feelings. And boy did we find out a few things about how Sam's feeling! One of the things Sam said to Dean that you left out was "It's none of your business" in answer to what else Sam can do. I immediately flashed to the revenge-fueled Sam in "Mystery Spot" who told "Bobby" the same thing. Yes, I fear your conclusion that Sam is emotionally gone is correct. And it breaks my heart.

I found it very telling that Dean's confrontation with Sam (both under the spell) was still full of love and fear for his brother while Sam's was hateful and demeaning towards his brother. Those guys, typical men, pretending nothing happened and they didn't mean a word at the end of the episode had me shaking my head as hard as I wanted to slap some sense into theirs. They are drifting apart big time.

Like you, I suspected that this FBI agent was just a little too "perfect" for Dean with all his knowledge of cars and music. The writers did a good job of shifting our suspicions over to Dr. Kara, though. But on that note, why did the "smart hunter" Sam have sex with her while they're investigating a siren???? Duh!

I always love to see our Dean sleeping; don't know why, but he looks so innocent, like a little boy. My heart broke a little when he lost the battle of trust and picked up Sam's cell. I know what that feels like - you hate yourself for invading their privacy, but you have to know what's going on. :(

This is a pivotal episode. I'm truly afraid of what it is foreshadowing at this point. Somehow I don't think these brothers are going to be standing side-by-side when we get to checkmate. :(

Again, great review. Three more weeks 'til we see a new episode again. Can't wait.

Catch ya' later,
Irish
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:37 pm (UTC)
And we're either on check or just a couple of moves away.

EEEP! This is just... ugh, I want to know before MAY if they get a Season 5 because I would breathe a bit easier knowing we had some more time before The End. The way this is going, with Sam being moved into position to choose between power and right... *bites lip* And bad me, but all I can think is "Poor Dean!"


But on that note, why did the "smart hunter" Sam have sex with her while they're investigating a siren???? Duh!

WORD! I was yelling the same thing at him. "Are you nuts?? You don't know what she is, where she's been, and she's OBVIOUSLY coming on to you..." *swats back of his head* Silly Sammy.

I got your review and will reply soon. Promise. :) Always so good to hear from you!!

Slainte.

qultng1
Feb. 6th, 2009 11:20 pm (UTC)
I heard Dean say the same thing you heard. I heard Sam say, "I'm already gone and I'm glad. I don't WANT to come back (and be with a loser like you)."

My heart is completely broken. I'm shattered.

If this is just something they have to work out, then I can go with it. I see the season ending with one of them, most likely Sam, leaving and intending to be gone for good.

:((

Nana
gaelicspirit
Feb. 11th, 2009 07:38 pm (UTC)
*hugs you*

Hang in there, Nana. It's going to be allright. Somehow. You can't have light with out darkness. You can't appreciate the light until you've walked through the darkness. So, right now our boys are in the dark and we just have to hold on until the step back into the light.

:)

Gaelic
looselyspeaking
Feb. 6th, 2009 11:53 pm (UTC)
I didn't immdiately, suss the FBI agent but I did think he was incrediably familiar with everything Dean and a little too good to be true, but I didn't allow myself to dig deeper into that layer until the scene when Dean took a sip of the flask, passed it and when he had another sip my skin goosebumped immediately. Excellent ruse.

Just a moment taken here to reflect on Dean asleep. Oh yum! I always enjoy those moments, there is something incrediably vulnerable about Dean but when he's asleep that vulnerability just rolls to the surface and brims over the top for me.

The end for me was one of those heart-in-mouth moments, when like a drunk, they both spill out all the deep seated never normally said things. That Sam see's himself as the stronger and Dean the weaker left me feeling incrediably worried. Dean, on so many more levels is the stronger person and if Sam cannot see that then it leaves me worried for the future of these two boys and the way that Sam's mind is currently running.

This episode has left me feeling like I'm hanging on the end of a precipice, nerves are jangling. It's going to be a long wait.

Thanks for the fab review, once again, Gaelic.

Jane :)
looselyspeaking
Feb. 7th, 2009 12:01 am (UTC)
Ack, just read this through and it has a large glass of wine's worth of spelling mistakes. Bad me!
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