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A Fanfic Blog Question for Ya'll....

Awhile back, I shared a link to a fanfiction blog created by mokibobolink. She's posted some really great fanfiction-centric entries such as, "Fanfiction: Your Dirty Little Secret?" as well as an exploration of the legalities of our hobby in, "Fanfiction: Is it Legal?" and also a series on getting and leaving reviews/comments including, "How to Leave Constructive Reviews" and "To Review or Not to Review."

She's had other fanfic writers publish 'guest posts' on her blog (Laine3112, an exceptional fanfic writer who focuses mainly on NCIS, was the most recent), and she's asked me if I'd like to submit a fanfic-centric guest post as well.

If I were to indulge my own penchant for waxing lyrical about this intriguing genre, what sort of topics would you guys like to see? I have thought about subjects like:

* Why we write/read fanfic
* Original characters: ally or enemy of a fanfic writer
* Betas: unsung heroes of fanfic
* The pull of original fiction over fanfic - is one a necessary evil? {input from deangirl1}
* Writing in multiple fandoms {input from deangirl1}
* Why do you stop writing/reading fic in a fandom (or at all)? {input from kimmer1227}
* What show trips your writing trigger and...why? {input from bardicvoice}

I wanted to reach out and see if there are any topics that you'd like to see further explored, and if so, what your thoughts are on those topics. I'll let you know what topic I decide upon and if Moki agrees that it would be a good article for her blog.

Thanks for your input!

I now return you to your regularly scheduled Tuesday.

Comments

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kimmer1227
Aug. 10th, 2010 07:09 pm (UTC)
I'd love it if you talked about the fandom's luv of whomp!fic. Okay. My love of whomp!fic. I mean, I love Dean Winchester. But I especially love Dean Winchester with a little bloodmouth. I don't like to see him beat to shit just for the sake of beating him to shit, but a GOOD whomp!fic is heaven!

Maybe it's angst in general. Emotional pain. Physical pain. A hero in pain is a good thing, yes? Maybe it's a vulnerability thing. I don't know.

I'm not sure if that's a proper subject or not, but I do ponder on the sadistic nature of my enjoyment of seeing someone I love a tad bloody. But on the positive side. With whomp comes h/c. :D

gaelicspirit
Aug. 10th, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)
Moki posted something on this very topic here called "Why Do We Hurt The Ones We Love."

I think she does a great job covering the 'why' of h/c and whump!fic -- at least why I like to read/write that type of fic. She even talks about the whole "dude, am I messed up that I like this" thought process. The answer, of course, is no, we are not messed up.

Or maybe yes, we are ALL messed up. Together. :)

I was thinking of touching on that aspect a bit in the "Why we read/write fanfic" topic, so I'll put this as a vote for that one. ;)

Thanks so much!




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gaelicspirit
Aug. 10th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I appreciate the raised hand for betas. :) I'm going to keep a running talley for a bit and see what comes out of it.
deangirl1
Aug. 10th, 2010 07:28 pm (UTC)
HA! You knew I'd never be able to resist THIS topic, didn't you???! I'd love to hear your thoughts on any of the 3 topics you mention. I think the beta relationship is a fascinating one. I could go on at length on that myself. I rarely use one but the one person I did use was a wonderful experience. She is the sort of person who picks out and fixes the one word that was making you crazy...
I'd love to hear your thoughts on OCs - especially as you are one of the few writers to do it well...
I'd also love your thoughts on the pull of original fiction over fan fic - is one a necessary evil? (I'll let you decide which is which.... LOL)...

and as a completely off topic aside - well maybe not really - I'm really distressed at the number of SPN writers who seem to be drifting away... (there seems to be a lot of White Collar out there... *ahem*...) but that in itself might be an interesting topic - an exploration of why/when we drift from one fandom to the other...

and this really is off topic - I've started a blog about my adventures in LA - started may be too strong a word... it exists, but i haven't written anything yet.... I hope to include law related, entertainment related, fandom related, squee related stuff....
gaelicspirit
Aug. 10th, 2010 07:40 pm (UTC)
*CLAPS!* Yay! So happy you chimed in! ;)

I'd also love your thoughts on the pull of original fiction over fan fic - is one a necessary evil?

Ooohhh -- this one is interesting. *adds to list* I like it!

I'm really distressed at the number of SPN writers who seem to be drifting away... (there seems to be a lot of White Collar out there... *ahem*...) but that in itself might be an interesting topic - an exploration of why/when we drift from one fandom to the other...

I think this is another intriguing topic -- multiple fandoms. *adds to list*

And, since you "ahem'd" me, I'll just say this really quickly. I consider myself to have one fandom, but I like many different shows. I honestly don't read much -- which is probably blasphemous to say as a fanfic writer -- so I didn't really note that there were SPN writers drifting away. But, for me at least, attempting a White Collar fic was an interesting exercise in writing characters. Could I actually write a fic with characters from other shows and not have it be "Dean and Sam play FBI Agent and Art Thief" -- y'know? It started out as a favor for a friend and became a test as to if I was good enough. If people who were fans of both shows would 'hear' their favorite characters' voices.

Plus, and this is again just me, I'm slowing down fanfic-wise. And I needed to rough up my edges a bit. I felt I was getting into a groove and this new SPN fic I'm working on, Sense, I wanted to stand out a bit. Going elsewhere for a bit and coming back helped me sharped up.

I think both of these are really interesting topics. I'm gonna add them up above, too. :) *grin*

I've started a blog about my adventures in LA - started may be too strong a word... it exists, but i haven't written anything yet....

DO IT DO IT!! I'd read it. How exciting! My husband just started a blog himself -- writing about soccer, of course -- and I was extremely excited on his behalf. Do this, my friend. And post a link somewhere that I'll find it! I can't wait to read!!!
primrose_1
Aug. 10th, 2010 07:55 pm (UTC)
It all sounds good to me!
gaelicspirit
Aug. 10th, 2010 07:56 pm (UTC)
Thanks lady! I'll letcha know what comes out of it. :)
jennierenee
Aug. 10th, 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
I would be interested in reading about original characters. Some are done really well *cough* Brenna *cough*.

Others, I cannot stand. I'm not sure why. I'll let you figure that one out ;).
gaelicspirit
Aug. 10th, 2010 08:19 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the vote! I know that I love writing OCs..., but I also know that OCs in general aren't a favorite in fanficland.

I would be an interesting topic to explore, that's for sure.

And since you brought up Brenna, I have a question for you. If I were to write a 4th -- wait, no 5th -- story involving that character, do you think it would be well-received?

I've been chewing on this for awhile; it would be something that would bring that AU 'verse closure, and would be my way of bringing some characters the "there'll be peace when you are done" type of ending I envision.

I'm just...not sure if people would be receptive to another story with that character or not. *is pondering*

No worries either way. And no pressure to answer, either. :)
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amberdreams
Aug. 10th, 2010 08:59 pm (UTC)
I am interested in the whole debate/antagonistic attitude from some readers towards O/Cs - why are they hated so much when any good story needs other characters who are believable for the main protagonists to fight against/love/hate/react to and with? Maybe it is because so many (poorer) FF writers do them so badly? Or maybe it is to do with the rabid irrational attitude of some readers who are bordering on the Becky-esque?
The other two topics I'd be interested in are around why we write at all, and why we stop, drift away...
Keep us posted..!
gaelicspirit
Aug. 10th, 2010 09:10 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for your input! *marks up talley*

why are they hated so much when any good story needs other characters who are believable for the main protagonists to fight against/love/hate/react to and with?

I couldn't agree more. Pretty much every episode has OCs, right? I mean, there has to be someone to save, someone to antagonize, someone to remind them who they are. I am rather intrigued by this topic.

We'll see how it plays out. I think I'll end up bringing the top two to Moki's attention and see what she thinks. :)

Thanks again!
adrenalineshots
Aug. 10th, 2010 09:14 pm (UTC)
All the topics seem very interesting indeed, but I would be very interested in Herculean job that betas do.
gaelicspirit
Aug. 10th, 2010 09:16 pm (UTC)
*makes mark in beta category*

I think this could be a good topic because it really depends on the kind of beta job one is asked to do as well as the skill of the writer, the beta...all of that.

It could get rather interesting.

Thanks so much for chiming in!
bardicvoice
Aug. 11th, 2010 01:05 am (UTC)
I'll be curious to drop in on whatever you write!

I think I already know the answer to this one for myself, but it might be interesting to explore why, out of all the shows we may enjoy, we may write for only a few. Number-wise, I've written more fic for Supernatural than for any other show I've ever watched. Most shows never make me itch with stories of my own to tell, but others, I absolutely can't resist, sometimes even years later. Curious. (And even now that I'm working on an original novel, Sam, Dean, the Impala, John, Mary, Bobby, and the rest are continuing to speak in my head ...)
gaelicspirit
Aug. 11th, 2010 01:24 am (UTC)
Oh! This is a really good one. What show trips your writing trigger and...why? *adds to list*

I never really knew about "fandom" or fanfiction before Supernatural, so yes, of the 30-something stories I've written, only two are from other shows. One that I was a fan of a long, long time ago (*suddenly has the urge to hum Don McLean*) and one that I just recently fell into.

But I would definitely love to explore the concept of which characters compell you to write about them and why -- even when you try -- you simply can't let them go.

*gives in and sings, drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry....*

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jesters_tear82
Aug. 11th, 2010 08:54 am (UTC)
My top 3 are:

* Why we write/read fanfic
* What show trips your writing trigger and...why?
* Original characters: ally or enemy of a fanfic writer

The last one - I think you're an expert on because your Oc's are to die for ;-) and YES do bring Brenna back!! She needs some kind of closure before Dean turns to Lisa..

I get your point about the "multiple shows, one fandom" as someone who watches quite a few but reads only in the SPN world.. I will also read NCIS if someone rec's a really good fic but that's about it. So I would love to read your thoughts about what draws us to a certain show and invokes something in us to look for more, either by reading or writing.

Thanks for sharing with us! :)

gaelicspirit
Aug. 11th, 2010 12:42 pm (UTC)
Fantastic! I'll make talley marks next to those. I think I'll bring the top two to Moki and see what she thinks. As her blog is focused on fanfic, she may want to take some of these other topics for herself. Never know! :)

Thank you for the comment on OCs. I really appreciate that -- especially because a) I fancy myself a writer as well as a story teller and want to expand into other areas outside of fanfic one day and b) I know OCs aren't really popular overall, so it's good to be told mine don't "get in the way."

As for if I write another story with Brenna...should I do that, it would essentially be AU as basically all my stories with Brenna have been for the mere fact that she's in the boys' lives. So, with that...there wouldn't be a Lisa. ;)

If you do like reading NCIS, you might want to check out Laine3112 and Moki's fic. Both are very well done.

Thank you for replying! Really good to hear from you!

Are you getting excited for your trip??
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a_phoenixdragon
Aug. 11th, 2010 03:45 pm (UTC)
*hugs you*
gaelicspirit
Aug. 11th, 2010 09:26 pm (UTC)
Right back atcha.
novembersguest
Aug. 11th, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
I think any of those topics would work well, but the last one caught my interest the most of them all. Has there been any topics talking about what to do when you lose your way because the show has just changed so much from what it was you loved?

I know someone who has had a hard time finishing one of her fics because she lost interest in the show because it quit being what she loved about it. Also, another topic could be what to do when you've lost touch with the characters because you don't recognize them anymore...which is kinda the same thing. Just throwing those out as well.

Anyway, I'm sure whatever you pick will be great!
gaelicspirit
Aug. 11th, 2010 09:25 pm (UTC)
That's really intriguing! I think you could easily fit those angles of exploration into "why we write/read" and also "why we stop" because I think it's really about a personal trigger or drive that causes you to do each of these things.

I also think that over a (nearly) 6 year span of time for our show that not only will the show and the characters shift and change from what it started out as, but we will shift and change from who we were when it all began. I think that can affect fanfic writing as well.

Very good points, my friend. :)
bambles
Aug. 11th, 2010 11:45 pm (UTC)
Hey! I stumbled upon your LJ a few weeks ago and have been devouring your stories ever since. I absolutely love them! :) I would really love to read about any of these topics, whatever you decide but the one about why we read/write fanfic caught my eye. Why do we have this need to whump our beloved Dean?! :)
gaelicspirit
Aug. 13th, 2010 02:59 pm (UTC)
Hi there -- sorry I missed this earlier!

Thanks for letting me know that you're enjoying your read through my stories! *grins* That indeed makes me truly happy.

I think the 'whumpage' factor could be included easily in the "why we read/write" fanfiction topic, though Moki posted a great article on that called "Why Do We Hurt The Ones We Love" over on her blog already. I put a link to it up above in my reply to kimmer1227, but LJ is being poopy and won't let me put it again for some reason.

Anyway, if you have time, check that out. And I'll letcha'll know what Moki agrees is a good topic! :)

Slainte!
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